In order to participate in the GunBroker Member forums, you must be logged in with your GunBroker.com account. Click the sign-in button at the top right of the forums page to get connected.
Witch other 5 states???
4000fps
Member Posts: 786 ✭✭
Anyone know what the other 5 states are that do not have any provision for concealed carry besides Illinois? I did not know it was down to only 6. Thanks.
Ron
Ron
Comments
Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
,,you can carry a sidearm out in the open. Our Gov. Bill Graves
has vetoed our right for concealed carry a coupla times.
Whoa,,see that??? I got a STAR!!!!
"No dear, this isn't a new gun,,I've had this one for quite a long time,,honest,,"
Edited by - sodbuster on 04/24/2002 14:04:15
=================================
Sometimes the most obvious, is the most elusive!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
Great link, thanks.
If I knew then, what I know now.
Concealed-gun bill gets a nod from Schirard
April 24, 2002
By Shane Benjamin
Herald Staff Writer
La Plata County Sheriff Duke Schirard said Tuesday he supports a House bill that would set uniform, statewide standards for issuing concealed-handgun permits.
Members voted 43-22 in favor of House Bill 1410 on Tuesday, which will send it to the Senate for a vote before May 8, the end of the legislative session.
The bill, by Rep. Lois Anne Tochtrop, D-Westminster, would require sheriffs to issue permits to applicants who pass a criminal background check, a fingerprint check and an approved training course.
"It's basically a reiteration of the policy I've had for the last seven-plus years," Schirard said.
The current law authorizes chiefs of police or sheriffs to decide whether and how they will issue concealed weapons.
The bill would eliminate police chiefs' authority to issue permits and implement the standards for sheriffs. Durango police Chief Al Bell said he does not issue concealed-weapon permits, preferring to send people to Schirard.
Even though Schirard said the bill reflects his own policy, there are some differences. For example, there are only two requirements on his concealed-weapon permit applications: The applicant must be a county resident and must be at least 25 years old.
The bill would expand these parameters, requiring the sheriff to issue a permit to any legal Colorado resident 21 years old or older. It also would restrict anyone with two or more alcohol-related convictions from being eligible for a permit.
In August 1999, Patrick T. McManus, of Ignacio, was issued a permit from Schirard, despite
having been arrested by Durango police in 1988 and 1990 on outstanding warrants and again in 1996 for three offenses related to drunken driving.
During an interview with the Herald in August, Schirard said he issued McManus a permit because he believed the drunken-driving conviction was "a mistake" in McManus' otherwise clean past.
"I have known this man personally for a long time, and I have a lot of faith in him," Schirard had said. "Because I know him and know he's a good man, I went ahead and issued it."
Schirard's application also asks a series of questions about the applicant's criminal history, experience with firearms, mental history and illegal drug use.
In addition to a Colorado Bureau of Investigations background check, each applicant also agrees to a check of local court records under Schirard's application.
If the bill passes, Schirard will lose the ability to issue permits based on "character" and will have to issue permits to anyone who meets the criteria. However, there is a provision in the bill that would allow sheriffs to deny a permit to anybody they can prove would be a danger. The denials could be appealed.
"If (the bill) does pass, it will be a good thing because it will standardize the process all over the state," Schirard said.
Chief Bell said he does not have a problem with the bill but is slightly concerned about the possibly of not being able to issue permits in an emergency situation. Also, the bill limits some of the sheriff's discretion, he said. However, he agreed with the need for uniform standards.
"I think there needs to be some standardization throughout the state," he said.
Sen. Jim Isgar, D-Hesperus, a co-sponsor of the bill, said he supports the bill because it would require background checks and fingerprinting to make sure applicants don't have a prior criminal record, and would require every sheriff to issue concealed-weapon permits to those eligible.
There is no current law requiring sheriffs to issue the permits to eligible applicants, which forces residents of some counties to seek permits in other counties.
"To me, it seemed like an improvement over the current law," Isgar said.
Rep. Mark Larson, R-Cortez, said he voted for the bill Tuesday because it confirms people's Second Amendment rights.
"It would do nothing to harm somebody's Second Amendment rights," Larson said.
In August, Larson said he wore a concealed handgun in the state's Capitol.
He said Tuesday that he has not carried the gun this legislative session.
Reach Staff Writer Shane Benjamin at shane@durangoherald.com
Edited by - idsman75 on 04/25/2002 08:53:35