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Backwoods militias suspected of being behind biowar threat

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited October 2001 in General Discussion
Backwoods militias suspected of being behind biowar threat IAN BRUCE THE FBI's domestic terrorism unit is investigating the possible role of illegal militia groups in the spate of anthrax outbreaks in Florida and New York.Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma bomber who killed 168 people when he blew up a federal building in 1995, was a supporter of one such group, the National Alliance.Others have threatened to use biological weapons, including anthrax, botulism, and ricin, in their struggle against what they see as a global conspiracy between the US administration and the United Nations to disarm and enslave them. Every state has its own "patriot" group of disaffected right-wing Christian radicals opposed to central government and federal regulations. Most are organised along paramilitary lines.The FBI estimates their numbers at up to 40,000, with the larger militias in backwoods country areas. They claim they are mobilising to fight the "New World Order".In places like Idaho, Texas, Montana and West Virginia, they wear army surplus camouflage uniforms and train with assault rifles and explosives against the day when they might have to defend themselves against direct interference from the federal authorities.They range in outlook from Pat Robertson, a failed 1988 presidential candidate, with his vision of a "Christian America" to the sinister Posse Comitatus, Aryan Nations and Minnesota Patriots' Council, who favour armed insurrection.All have links with the National Rifle Association, the influential lobby group which represents weapons' manufacturers, hunters and gun clubs and campaigns for the right of all Americans "to own and bear arms".There is some doubt as to whether this right is enshrined legally in the American constitution but the NRA has powerful supporters in both senate and congress and no-one has yet managed successfully to challenge the all-pervasive nationwide gun culture.Most of the militias' philosophy is based on white-supremacist principles, looking down on blacks as "mud people" and Jews as instigators of the global plot against them and manipulators of the world economy for their own benefit.Despite their redneck reputation, they have developed a sophisticated communications network using computer e-mail, shortwave radio, and fax. The North American Patriots, a group with members from California to Kansas, publish a newsletter entitled Firearms and Freedom.After the disastrous FBI storming of the Branch Davidian headquarters in Waco, Texas, and the Ruby Ridge stand-off fiasco, where an FBI sniper killed an unarmed woman in a mountain cabin, the militias have turned to the threat of biological weapons to up the ante.In January 1999, police and security forces responded to 30 anthrax hoaxes in southern California alone. Since then, there have been thousands of false alarms across the country.Many aimed at government buildings, including deliveries of envelopes containing suspicious white powder, were militia inspired. Others targeting schools, hospitals or newspapers were sent by disgruntled former employees or jilted lovers.However, the FBI has never discounted the possibility someone might lay hands on lethal biological agents. In 1992, two members of the Minnesota Patriots' Council were arrested carrying vials of ricin, an extremely dangerous toxin. They intended to use the substance to kill police officers over a local feud.Larry Wayne Harris of the Aryan Nations managed to buy samples of bubonic plague over the internet. Fortunately, the plague bacteria were inert.Three members of the Republic of Texas bought what they thought was anthrax in 1998. It turned out to be anthrax serum, the liquid used to inoculate people against the infection.An FBI source said yesterday that up to 80% of the weapons of mass destruction inquiries carried out in the last few years involved the threat of anthrax.Before the death of a British-born newspaperman in Florida last week, only 28 people in the US had died from effects of the bacterium in the last 100 years.Before biowar became a potentially popular hobby, anthrax was known as "wool-shearer's disease" because it had been contracted only by farmworkers in close contact with sheep, a prime carrier of the infection.An FBI source said: "We can never rule out al Qaeda's possible role in the current deliberate spread of anthrax. It is causing more panic than anything else and has not, thankfully, been disseminated in a very efficient way if the object was to inflict casualties."But our own militias may also have a hand in some or all of the incidents. Copycats and hoaxers could also be having a field day. The problem is, we just can't afford to drop our guard." http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/16-10-19101-1-7-46.html -Oct 16th

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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "All have links with the National Rifle Association . . . ." Hmmmmm - not that these alleged links are specified, but perhaps it means that among the 4 million NRA members, at least one belongs to some loony-tunes milita outfit? I wonder how many subscribers to The Herald belong to Al Queda? Wouldn't that link the paper - and by extension the author - to the terrorists? Oh, I'm sorry; I forgot - that sort of guilt by association is valid only if the 'guilty' party doesn't support the political agenda of the liberal left mushbrain news media.
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Imagine the audacity of some of these militia groups; demanding that the US govt. uphold the United States Constitution.Boy! Some people...
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  • ndbillyndbilly Member Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    icnoclast - There you go again, introducing logic into the argument!
  • ndbillyndbilly Member Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry, I-man, missed an "o" in your name.
  • landislandis Member Posts: 230 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Right Wing Extremists" is the catchphrase of the left. Maybe we should be looking into the "LEFT Wing extremists" as well, like the Unibomber (who was inspired by Al Gore's "earth in the ballance")? Of course our news media (except Fox maybe) will not ever accuse the left of being involved in any wrongdoing, even if it is in reality not domestic in oregin. We know this is Iraq or Iran or Binladin.
  • .280 freak.280 freak Member Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought the same thing as soon as I saw the line about the NRA "connection". Sheesh, you know that they were trying to imply that the NRA has a hand in all this (without actually saying it and opening themselves up to a libel charge).One other point -It's my understanding that the production (and related aspects thereof) of weapon-grade anthrax is not a cheap or easy task, generally thought to require the backing of some country or other. Seems rather unlikely, then, that some "backwoods" militia group is behind this.Of course, it doesn't take much imagination to buy some talcum powder, baking soda, whatever, stuff it in an envelope and send to someone you don't like.My feeling on this is that anybody found to have sent a benign powder through the mail, or in any other way attempted to cause panic along those lines, should be prosecuted as though the stuff were real. Make an example of a few idiots and maybe the message would get through.
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    .280 - the Fibbies & others are already talking that line. 'Course, the other shoe is maybe 'receiving' a letter from someone you don't particularly like stuffed w/ baby powder? What a wonderful new way for the Gestapo to put away a few folks who don't toe the line . . . .
  • Andrew AdamsAndrew Adams Member Posts: 227 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    At one time in my life, I got casually involved with a militia group, thinking they were a respectable gun organization. Once I realized that they were actually doing maneuvers out in Allegheny National Forest, I immediately cut all of my ties with them and haven't been involved with them since, but I did learn some things about how they work.First of all, the members tended to be among the poorest and worst educated folks around. Second of all, they got their news from "alternative" news organizations that sensationalize much of the news. I realize that NBC sensationalizes news as well, but not as much as some of these racist loony tunes who publish their own version of the news.My experience with them left me feeling rather unworried about the group. To put it mildly, if all of their brains together were turned to dynamite, you would be hard pressed to blow your nose. Being somewhat experienced with microbiology, I am 100% confident that these people do not have either the wherewithal, connections, or ability to manufacture anthrax for this type of attack. As Mr. McVeigh demonstrated, there are a few of them who have the brains to blow stuff up, but I really don't believe that there is a militia member in the United States who has the brains to manufacture a weapon of biological terror. The most likely outcome of these people getting access to some weapons grade anthrax is that they would kill themselves trying to store it. Anyone who is saying that the militia groups are behind the anthrax attack is lieing to you
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My *government* lie to me? The news media *lie* to me? Oh, Andrew, say it ain't true!
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