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Horse meat?

dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
edited September 2006 in General Discussion
Anyone ever had it? I wonder how it is? Is there anywhere to buy it?
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anybody ever eat horse meat? My Dad used to talk about eating it during the depression, he did not say to much, about it othere than it was meat, and they ate what they could get. (I think he might have fed some to me in my youth, Dad was a mystery meat kind of guy[:0])
    Do you think we need a law to prevent eating it?
    http://www.saplonline.org/horses.htm
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
  • plains scoutplains scout Member Posts: 4,563
    edited November -1
    Law to prevent it? H E double toothpicks NO!!!

    The next law will be "no wild game processing"

    Plus that just means that old horses end up shot and buried or coyote bait.

    If some Frankophone wants to eat my old gray mare -- let him.
  • jbw1776jbw1776 Member Posts: 3,056
    edited November -1
    I'd eat it and wouldn't think twice (just a glorified cow IMO), but then again, I'll eat anything.

    Ben
  • LaidbackDanLaidbackDan Member Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Back in my younger years I worked as a zookeeper, about 85% of the job was food preparation which included butchering all sorts of animals that were donated (as food)to the zoo. A lot of it consisted of horses that had to be put down (shot behind the ear, not my favorite duty)the meat was much more red in color and marbled perfectly compared to the beef we took in. I have never tried it but don't have any kind of taboo toward eating it.
  • temblortemblor Member Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wouldn't eat it myself unless it meant survival for no other reason than I like horses too much to eat one.
    It's a very popular dish in Europe though ( whatever that means ).
  • phideaux4886phideaux4886 Member Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by temblor
    I wouldn't eat it myself unless it meant survival for no other reason than I like horses too much to eat one.
    It's a very popular dish in Europe though ( whatever that means ).

    So are snails.
    DSM
  • temblortemblor Member Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by phideaux4886
    quote:Originally posted by temblor
    I wouldn't eat it myself unless it meant survival for no other reason than I like horses too much to eat one.
    It's a very popular dish in Europe though ( whatever that means ).

    So are snails.
    DSM

    Yeah but have you ever tried to make friends with a snail ? Or ride one in the mountains and pack out a dead Elk on one ?
  • LaidbackDanLaidbackDan Member Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My horses would be one of the last things that I would consider eating in a time of need.

    everyone else's though, well that's a whole other matter.
  • sotheresothere Member Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "
    Just slaughtered this horse last week,I think she's startin ta turn"

    Pa Harwallop; Oh Broher where art thou.[:D]
  • ThrockmortonThrockmorton Member Posts: 814 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IIRC, in the early 70's beef skyrocketed,and horse meat markets sprang up around Portland,Or. we tried it several time and found it very edible.Seemed odd to be eating horse meat though.
  • mondmond Member Posts: 6,458
    edited November -1
    Here in uk its considered, oh no!![xx(]
    But in europe, as in france etc,(but they will eat anyhting) its a delicacy, a butcher friend sells it as dog meet ,so he says, but he sells tons of the stuff [;)]...guess there a'int that many dogs around here , so i'd say its quite popular....but kept..hush ush......[;)]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    I am sure anyone if hungry enuff would eat it!

    As for me, it wouldn't be first on my list but I wouldn't be against it if it was put before me.

    I used to think I would never eat squirrel, untill I unknowingly tried it in a stew. Now I'd eat it anytime.
  • sharpshooter039sharpshooter039 Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yep ,had horse meat,buffalo,rattle snake,lots and lots of gator tail,if you will eat a bug growing in a muddy ditch along the road "crawfish" there is not much you want eat,just an old country boy [^][^][^]
  • bang250bang250 Member Posts: 8,021
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by LaidbackDan
    (shot behind the ear, not my favorite duty)


    Your supposed to draw (figuratively speaking) a line from left ear to right eye, right ear to left eye and put the captive bolt or bullet where the lines intersect.

    I've seen lots of horse meat and would eat it in a minute. In fact one of the guys I know that hauls to the kill plant(or packaging plant) was supposed to get me some steaks but haven't seen him in quite a while now. Yep, there are several packaging plants here in the states. Last I heard you could get .50-.60 per pound live wieght.
  • 1FMJ1FMJ Member Posts: 1,556 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi Don;
    Yes I have eaten horse meat,we got it at Butcher Boy'S slauter house in Warren Mi. It was leaner than beef and when cooken was really dry.
    Needed a lot of ketchup to get it to slid down the pipe.
    Hourse meat was cheper than beef as this was during the Korean war.
    Your Buddy <1fmj>
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've eaten horse, monkey, dog, gator, and even snails. If you haven't tried them prepared in garlic and butter, you really don't know what you're talking about. They taste and chew exactly like beefsteak.

    Anyone that says they wouldn't eat something has never been hungry.
  • rogue_robrogue_rob Member Posts: 7,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by sothere
    "
    Just slaughtered this horse last week,I think she's startin ta turn"

    Pa Harwallop; Oh Broher where art thou.[:D]


    Well god darned!! It looks like we are in a geographical anomolie!!! 3 weeks from everywhere!!!!

    lol I love that movie
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never eaten it, Horse meat Export was big biz here in Tex until last week.
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My dad used to say they ate horse meat in Germany when he was in the Army. that was the early fifties. He said it was good!
  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ever had Chinese?
    Half of the lives they tell about me aren't true.
  • glynglyn Member Posts: 5,698 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Monds when I was a kid it was legal in the UK,have eaten it many times,it aint bad.Played for a full season for a french Rugy club,and we always had a piece of raw horsemeat before a game,was a tradition with them and was no worse than some of the things I eaten on rugby tour for a laught.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    An editorial c St. Petersburg Times published September 4, 2002

    Americans squeamish over horse meat

    SAN ANGELO, Texas -- If you relish cheval burgers with your onion rings and cold brew, do not look to menus in American restaurants. Sure, you can find horse meat in most states, but you will be hard-pressed to hear chefs trumpeting this fact.

    In beef-loving America, eating horse flesh is anathema. We raise cows, hogs and sheep for food, not horses. Most us see horses as pets, companions, playmates and beasts of burden. We cannot imagine roasting or barbecuing the likes of Trigger, Silver, Flicka, Black Beauty and Mr. Ed.

    But many other countries, especially those recently hard hit by mad cow and other disease, consider horse meat to be a nutritious staple and will pay big bucks for it. The Dallas Morning News reports that of the 6.9-million horses in America in 2001, 57,000 were slaughtered, mostly for human consumption.

    Two U.S. companies, both in Texas, have cornered a large part of the world's equine flesh market. An Illinois company that sold horse meat burned down last year and has not rebuilt. With 150 workers, Dallas Crown Inc. and Beltex Corp. kill nearly 1,000 horses a week. The process -- from herding the animals into corrals, to condemning them to the killing room, to packing and shipping tasty loins -- takes all of four days.

    The protein-rich, lean meat is sent to the butchers and restaurateurs of Asia, mainly Japan, and Europe, mainly France. Here in the United States, zoos buy the meat for their big cats and other carnivores.

    In America, unlike in other horse-flesh producing nations, such as Romania and Belgium, public opposition to eating horse runs high. Animal-protection groups, led by the Texas Humane Legislation Network, are trying to shut down the multimillion-dollar industry.

    Interpreting a 1949 Texas law as prohibiting possession, sale or shipment of horse meat for human consumption, the organization argues that Crown and Beltex are operating illegally. The network has gained the support of the Texas attorney general.

    For their part, Crown and Beltex are mounting a vigorous campaign to save their skins. They see themselves as legitimate outfits serving at least two legitimate needs: They help satisfy the palates of millions of diners worldwide, and they pay owners to dispose of animals that have outlived their usefulness.

    About the horses that are slaughtered, Oliver Kemseke, the owner of Crown, voiced his puzzlement over American's love of horses to the Morning News: "Most of (the horses) here are cripples or have back problems or are crazy in the head. We're a business just like any business. But it's a sensitive matter what we do. . . . These people don't understand. . . . We don't kill a horse unless there's something wrong. . . . There are a lot of horses in this country, and you people don't eat it. It's just a piece of meat."

    Critics believe that Kemseke, a Romanian, and his colleagues tell only part of the story. Greedy horse dealers, critics argue, sell healthy horses to Crown and Beltex. As a result, an everything-is-fair-game atmosphere has developed. Many horse thieves are said to steal for and sell only to the slaughterhouses.

    But Kemseke and officials at Beltex enjoy strong support in some surprising places, according to the Morning News. Many horse owners who cannot or are unwilling to pay for caring for injured or old mounts like Kemseke. These owners do not want to pay hundreds of dollars for traditional disposal, which involves injection, perhaps burial or transport to a dump.

    Another surprising supporter is Dr. Tom Lenz, president-elect of the 7,000-member American Association of Equine Practitioners. "The issue is what do you do with unwanted horses," he said. "Some people can't afford to keep them."

    Lenz, who has witnessed slaughters at Beltex, said the industry kills horses "humanely." The companies use the same method used to kill cows and other live stock that we eat: a quick killing blow of a stun gun to the head. Veterinarians worry that if the Texas network succeeds in banning horse meat processing in this country, our unwanted animals will be sent to the busy killing floors of Canada and Mexico.

    A mystified Kemseke believes that Americans' sentimentality has made the horse a sacred cow. Further, the closing of U.S. plants would result in the needlessly expensive, unintended consequence of euthanizing and burying tens of thousands of horses annually. Kemseke reasons that if we are going to kill horses anyway, why not use the meat as food? In reality, he said, Americans cannot stop horse slaughtering everywhere in the world.
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never tried it, wouldn't be opposed to it, under the right circumstances.
  • Grunt2Grunt2 Member Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep....as a matter of fact...It used to be available at the Safeway stores in the late 70's.....Not bad....But better than dog and monkey..!
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  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    I've eaten horse, monkey, dog, gator, and even snails. If you haven't tried them prepared in garlic and butter, you really don't know what you're talking about. They taste and chew exactly like beefsteak.

    Anyone that says they wouldn't eat something has never been hungry.

    Anything tastes good if it's prepared in garlic and butter. For years I thought I loved lobster. Come to find out I just like garlic and butter.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mond
    Here in uk its considered, oh no!![xx(]
    But in europe, as in france etc,(but they will eat anyhting) its a delicacy, a butcher friend sells it as dog meet ,so he says, but he sells tons of the stuff [;)]...guess there a'int that many dogs around here , so i'd say its quite popular....but kept..hush ush......[;)]


    I used to spend summers in Ireland with my mothers family. When i got sick the old doctor down the road would make me drink mare's(horse) milk. The doctor raised his own horses too and apparently milked them himself to produce his miracle cure.

    The stuff tasted terrible. I learned pretty quick not to say i was sick for any reason.
  • gagirlgagirl Member Posts: 5,408
    edited November -1
    Tried it and liked it. Have no problem eating it or any other animal.
  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gagirl
    Have no problem eating it or any other animal.


    I'd eat horse in a heartbeat if i was starving. How hungry do you think you'd have to be to eat another human?
  • hk-91hk-91 Member Posts: 10,050
    edited November -1
    i have tried many kinda of meat. deer, elk, rattlesnake, kangaroo, alligator, buffalo, squirrel, ect.... but there are two things that i dont think i could ever eat. one being dog the other being human. as for horse meat i have never tried it but would be willing to some time. i have never seen it for sale around here. i didnt think it was legal for human consumption but i could be wrong.
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by temblor
    quote:Originally posted by phideaux4886
    quote:Originally posted by temblor
    I wouldn't eat it myself unless it meant survival for no other reason than I like horses too much to eat one.
    It's a very popular dish in Europe though ( whatever that means ).

    So are snails.
    DSM

    Yeah but have you ever tried to make friends with a snail ? Or ride one in the mountains and pack out a dead Elk on one ?

    I saw an episode where Spongebob did just that!
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    Never tried it, wouldn't be opposed to it, under the right circumstances.

    Like what, candle light and a nice Merlot?[:D]
  • dpmuledpmule Member Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    spent four years on the steppes in kazahkstan, and ate some type of horse meat at leats once a day, Once I even at smoked horse meat sausage sandwiches on the bank of (get this) "The Good Horse River". The only thing I had trouble with was a drink called (sp) Shubat which was fermented mares milk strained through cheesecloth ot whatever is handy. The worst meat IMO hands down is old camel.
  • TrinityScrimshawTrinityScrimshaw Member Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Back in the late 70's while in the Army & stationed in Germany I ate some. It was cooked up in a burger, and seasoned quite nice. It is common to eat it in European countries, and most restaurants that serve it will have a wooden horse head outside.

    I tried to find some dog in Korea, but couldn't. At least I thought I couldn't.[:D]

    Trinity +++
  • temblortemblor Member Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cartod
    quote:Originally posted by temblor
    quote:Originally posted by phideaux4886
    quote:Originally posted by temblor
    I wouldn't eat it myself unless it meant survival for no other reason than I like horses too much to eat one.
    It's a very popular dish in Europe though ( whatever that means ).

    So are snails.
    DSM

    Yeah but have you ever tried to make friends with a snail ? Or ride one in the mountains and pack out a dead Elk on one ?

    I saw an episode where Spongebob did just that!

    You need to stop smoking that stuff cartod [:D].
  • The TinmanThe Tinman Member Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Horse meat is very similar to buffalo (American Bison), in that it has very little fat in it. If you try to cook it like a steak, it will be dry and chewy. Cook it like a roast, in a cooking bag at a lower temperature than beef or pork and you would be surprised at the taste and texture. You may even be eating horsemeat instead of beef and not know it.
    PETA is currently trying to place a moratorium on the slaughter of the adopted wild mustangs found in Nevada, Arizona and California. A person purchasing or adopting a wild mustang will have to sign an affidavit indicating that the purchase and/or adoption will not be for the soul purpose of slaughtering the animal for dog or human consumption. I don't think the initiative has been passed, but the concept is growing.
  • gagirlgagirl Member Posts: 5,408
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by hughbetcha
    quote:Originally posted by gagirl
    Have no problem eating it or any other animal.


    I'd eat horse in a heartbeat if i was starving. How hungry do you think you'd have to be to eat another human?


    If in a survival situation and they were already dead I would eat a human without a doubt. I would not however kill a human to eat.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interesting thing about horse meat. It is illegal to sell it to consumers in the US, but there are FDA approved packers that export horse meat to Canada and other countries. They don't advertise much. Try to keep it hush-hush

    There is a packer here in Northern Illinois.
  • dpmuledpmule Member Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As of right now,if you adopt a mustang thorugh the program you must meet their critieria for keeping it and also sign the waiver that you will not sell, trade or give away the animal for one year, after that if it's not working out it can go to the killer pen if you want it to.
    [?]If you ate a wild horse from France, would it taste like chicken[?]
  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by hughbetcha
    quote:Originally posted by gagirl
    Have no problem eating it or any other animal.


    I'd eat horse in a heartbeat if i was starving. How hungry do you think you'd have to be to eat another human?


    I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

    I do wish we could chat longer, but I'm having an old friend for dinner.
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1FMJ
    Hi Don;
    Yes I have eaten horse meat,we got it at Butcher Boy'S slauter house in Warren Mi. It was leaner than beef and when cooken was really dry.
    Needed a lot of ketchup to get it to slid down the pipe.
    Hourse meat was cheper than beef as this was during the Korean war.
    Your Buddy <1fmj>

    Hey John,
    It was at Butcher boy back in the 60's that Dad pointed out the unloding ramp and told me that is where they unloaded the horses.
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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