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Dr. Atkins was FAT!

alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
edited February 2004 in General Discussion
Dr. Robert Atkins, whose popular diet stresses protein-rich meat and cheese over carbohydrates, weighed 258 pounds at his death and had a history of heart disease, a newspaper reported Tuesday.

Atkins died last April at age 72 after being injured in a fall on an icy street.

Before his death, he had suffered a heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing a report by the city medical examiner.

At 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's body-mass index calculator.

Diet is one potential factor in heart disease, but infections also can contribute to it.

Atkins had had a viral infection which had weakened his heart, his widow Veronica said in a statement.

"I have been assured by my husband's physicians that my husband's health problems late in life were completely unrelated to his diet or any diet," she said. "My husband's death resulted from a serious head injury."

Atkins' weight was due to bloating associated with his condition, and he had been much slimmer during most of his life, Stuart Trager, chairman of the Atkins Physicians Council in New York, said.

Atkins' widow blamed "shameless individuals" who violated federal law in obtaining the report. "Obviously such people will have no trouble picking and choosing bits and pieces of fact and supposition to mislead the world."

The medical examiner's report was given to the Journal by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a group that advocates vegetarianism.

"If Dr. Atkins himself paid a price for following this sort of diet for a long period of time, that is indeed a tragedy," Dr. Neal Barnard, president of the group, told CBS radio station WBZ-AM.

"The only relevance this would have is if he used himself as an example to show what the diet could do over the long run, and encouraged other people to go on the unhealthy diet that made him a lot of money," Barnard said.

The Physicians Committee maintains the Atkins Diet is unwise.

"Over the long run it is not a good approach to weight control. For some people, it seems to contribute to increased risk of heart problems. We have heard of people dying after following this sort of diet," he said.

In April 2002, Atkins issued a statement saying he was recovering from cardiac arrest related to a heart infection he had suffered from "for a few years." He said it was "in no way related to diet."

On Tuesday, the medical examiner's office would say only that Atkins died of a head injury from the fall.

"I can't comment on people's previous conditions. It's against the law," said spokeswoman Ellen Borakove.

Borakove said that, because of family objections to an autopsy, the medical examiner had conducted only "an external exam" and a review of Atkins' hospital records.

She said a report had been sent to a doctor in Nebraska who requested it, and said he apparently gave it to the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.

It was later discovered that the doctor was not "the treating physician" and should not have had access to the report, Borakove said. The medical examiner's office plans to complain to Nebraska health officials, she said.

Last month, Veronica Atkins demanded an apology from Mayor Michael Bloomberg after Bloomberg called her late husband "fat."




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  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    I heard that too , then later on i heard where the doctors where paid by PETA to make those statement and it was all a sham, something to do with PETA wanting to scare people away from eating meat
  • SuspensionSuspension Member Posts: 4,783
    edited November -1
    I've been eating meat for...well... my entire life. Is it all over, is this the end?
    Isn't there at least three things per year they say are bad for you then within the next two years it's announced to eat more of those items...

    I think the good doctor was a money grub and all the PETA researchers are....hell no one knows what PETA people are or where they came from.

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  • powdersmokepowdersmoke Member Posts: 3,241
    edited November -1
    Just saw a report on that on the Today show. He was said to have retained water, yes that much water. The medical expert who did not seem to agree with Dr Atkins diet said that was possible. He also did not die of a heart attack according to this expert.

    So who do you want to believe?

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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just another diet plan.
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    Vegetarian Bullspit.
    PETA has an anti-meat agenda.
    When Atkins died of head injuries sustained in a fall after being hospitalized for several weeks, he had gained water weight from intravenous feeding and inactivity.
    His diet advocates eating meat/protein and shunning various carbohydrate-laden foods like rice and beans and bread; which begins turning your body into a ketosis machine.
    Ketosis starts your body burning stored fat instead of storing it around your waist.
    What's so difficult about understanding * function?

    If you know it all; you must have been listening.<br>WEAR EAR PROTECTION!
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,509 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Atkins diet will cause you to lose weight.
    It is a dangerous fad, because in the long run it will cause health problems, such as kidney failure. It also will cause gout. There is no fiber in meat cheese and eggs, so here comes colon cancer.

    In our country, we have to go to the extremes. Carbohydrates have become a dirty word by the uninformed. Beans, whole wheat, brown rice are nutritious and healthy, as is meat, butter, and eggs, when taken in moderation.

    Get your big butt off that Atkins diet, eat moderately from different food groups, and exercise.
  • steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The paper said he weighed 195 at the time he fell and went to the hospital. Friends who visited him said they were shocked at the change in his appearance. Im surprised at the medias bias towards the all meat diet. Its not for me but people on it that I've talked to say it works for them.
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    quote:It is a dangerous fad, because in the long run it will cause health problems, such as kidney failure. It also will cause gout. There is no fiber in meat cheese and eggs, so here comes colon cancer.


    His diet works, and was approved by my Internist and Cardiologist. I've lost 32 pounds to date, and my blood work shows my liver and kidneys are fuctioning better than they have in years. My blood sugar is under control even witout medication now, and I feel better than I have in years.

    As long as you read the book and do as he recommended by getting blood tests before and during the diet, it is safe. The only people who hurt themselves are the ones who stay on the "induction" phase ( the first two week part of the diet) for an extended time period. If they would have read the book, he tells people not to do that, but most people are too lazy to read and just take the parts of the diet they want to do. That is dumb. Do it, and do it right, and it is safe. As with most things, do it wrong, and it will hurt you.

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  • sharpshooter039sharpshooter039 Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I started on the atkins diet the last week of january 2003,at this time I weighed 512 lbs,right now I am at 326 and still loosing,my colesterol has dropped to 147 so you tell me was I more healthy before or after I started.As far as fiber there is many thing you eat on this diet that is high in fiber,you can eat all the salad you want just be wise to what dressing you use,almost all green vegetables are high in fiber and low in carbs.You dont just eat beef and eggs and cheese,,,,grilled fish and almost all seafood has no carbs,,99% of people who comment NEGATIVELY on this diet have never even bothered to read one book one it and like most liberals follow whatever the media tells them blindly.There are more docters now that agree this is a healthy diet if done the correct, way more than say that say it is unhealthy but one thing is a fact,,the governments food pyramid sure does not work because we as a nation become more obese ever year.
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,509 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't want any dietary tips from someone who has ballooned up to 512 pounds.
    How many gallons of ice cream, how many buckets of fried chicken do you have to eat to attain that tonnage?
    If you read some of my posts you will see that I am anything but a liberal, where do you get off with that odd remark?
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    Come on guys! This has nothing to do with politics or name calling.

    Sharpshooter, I'm glad it's working for you, and let me be the first to congratulate you on your success.

    Allen, I'm sorry that what was said pi$$ed you off, but look inside and see a few facts. It is true that most of those who fail at the diet haven't read the book or are not following the diets protocals. Also, if you read the book, you will find that the reason you are cutting out the carbs is so your body will use it's own insulin to pull carbs from stored fat. That is how it changes your metabolism at starts the fat burning process. It is sound medicine according to my doctor.

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  • RickstirRickstir Member Posts: 574
    edited November -1
    Allen read the book before you go spouting crap about it.

    I eat up to 50 grams of carbs (yes carbs with fiber). There is a lot more too it than meat, eggs and cheese. I have lost 80 pounds, blood pressure medicene is a thing of the past for me. The crap about liver and kidney damage is bull too. If you do it "by the book" and drink the water and exercise, this is a perfectly safe way to change your eating habits and get healthy. Just had a colonoscopy one week ago today, clean pipes all the way (and I do mean all the way).
    Get a little education before stepping up on the soapbox. I guess millions of people are wrong.

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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,509 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Since I played college athletics 30 years ago I am only ten pounds heavier, and I am 6-3.
    I have been studying nutrition for fifteen years.
    I eat meat every day, and I love butter and eggs. I have learned, however, that too much protein and fat will cause kidney failure and gout.
    If y'all would get more excercise you could eat a sensible diet and be healthy.
    When I see Burger King advertising a low carb whopper, which is a whopper in a plastic dish with no bun, I know I am looking at a fad.
    Like all fads, this one will fade away some day. I hope you Atkins guys don't wind up sick
  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here is some info on what you can and can't eat:
    http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-464579.html
    I have lost over 50 lbs, I used to eat a roll of tumms / rolaids
    a week, I haven't needed them since I started!
    Have any of you other dieters tried the carb-smart ice cream?
    tasty stuff![:D]
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