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In your own words, define stereotype...

steeltoe1978steeltoe1978 Member Posts: 3,248
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
...as it pertains to people/race.

To me, a stereotype is a generalization of a race that has come about because a MAJORITY of the people in that race act in a certain way. If this weren't the case, there wouldn't be any stereotypes. It's a reputation. While it is not 100% accurate to label the entire race based on the actions of a MAJORITY of the population of people within that race, the MAJORITY has set the reputation for the entire race which includes the minority of that population, and you then have a stereotype. Again, it's not 100% accurate to portray every person within a certain race as being a certain way simply because of the actions of the MAJORITY of people within that race; however, it's better, in my opinion, to err on the side of caution when dealing with those people who have a negative stereotype associated with them. Screw being PC. A good person is a good person in my book, and a bad one is a bad one REGARDLESS of race, but, I'll still err on the side of caution.

Your thoughts?

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  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My stereotype is Kenwood. I used to have a Sony, but it burned up.
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    Everyone that logs on to gunbroker forum, is a crazed gun loving killer.
  • steeltoe1978steeltoe1978 Member Posts: 3,248
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses
    My stereotype is Kenwood. I used to have a Sony, but it burned up.

    I'm partial to Alpine and Pioneer myself. [:D]
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978
    ...as it pertains to people/race.

    To me, a stereotype is a generalization of a race that has come about because a MAJORITY of the people in that race act in a certain way. If this weren't the case, there wouldn't be any stereotypes. It's a reputation. While it is not 100% accurate to label the entire race based on the actions of a MAJORITY of the population of people within that race, the MAJORITY has set the reputation for the entire race which includes the minority of that population, and you then have a stereotype. Again, it's not 100% accurate to portray every person within a certain race as being a certain way simply because of the actions of the MAJORITY of people within that race; however, it's better, in my opinion, to err on the side of caution when dealing with those people who have a negative stereotype associated with them. Screw being PC. A good person is a good person in my book, and a bad one is a bad one REGARDLESS of race, but, I'll still err on the side of caution.

    Your thoughts?
    So, its true that the MAJORITY of people from Alabama only have three teeth, and have sex with thier relatives OK..I guess I got to go with your definition. Oops, sorry that would be a STEREOTYPE.[;)]
  • steeltoe1978steeltoe1978 Member Posts: 3,248
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978
    ...as it pertains to people/race.

    To me, a stereotype is a generalization of a race that has come about because a MAJORITY of the people in that race act in a certain way. If this weren't the case, there wouldn't be any stereotypes. It's a reputation. While it is not 100% accurate to label the entire race based on the actions of a MAJORITY of the population of people within that race, the MAJORITY has set the reputation for the entire race which includes the minority of that population, and you then have a stereotype. Again, it's not 100% accurate to portray every person within a certain race as being a certain way simply because of the actions of the MAJORITY of people within that race; however, it's better, in my opinion, to err on the side of caution when dealing with those people who have a negative stereotype associated with them. Screw being PC. A good person is a good person in my book, and a bad one is a bad one REGARDLESS of race, but, I'll still err on the side of caution.

    Your thoughts?
    So, its true that the MAJORITY of people from Alabama only have three teeth, and have sex with thier relatives OK..I guess I got to go with your definition.


    Is Alabama a race? Yes, I did say "as it pertains to people/race" but I'm talking mainly about race here...
  • steeltoe1978steeltoe1978 Member Posts: 3,248
    edited November -1
    ...and to answer my own thread... I guess that all Asians are good at math and play violins... because that's what a MAJORITY of them do right?! (INSERT SARCASM HERE [;)]) I'm not looking to start fights here or cause problems, but when I wrote what I wrote to start this thread, the original things that I said were what I was thinking. Already, I have started to revise my personal definition. So let's have a good discussion.
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978
    ...as it pertains to people/race.

    To me, a stereotype is a generalization of a race that has come about because a MAJORITY of the people in that race act in a certain way. If this weren't the case, there wouldn't be any stereotypes. It's a reputation. While it is not 100% accurate to label the entire race based on the actions of a MAJORITY of the population of people within that race, the MAJORITY has set the reputation for the entire race which includes the minority of that population, and you then have a stereotype. Again, it's not 100% accurate to portray every person within a certain race as being a certain way simply because of the actions of the MAJORITY of people within that race; however, it's better, in my opinion, to err on the side of caution when dealing with those people who have a negative stereotype associated with them. Screw being PC. A good person is a good person in my book, and a bad one is a bad one REGARDLESS of race, but, I'll still err on the side of caution.

    Your thoughts?
    So, its true that the MAJORITY of people from Alabama only have three teeth, and have sex with thier relatives OK..I guess I got to go with your definition.


    Is Alabama a race? Yes, I did say "as it pertains to people/race" but I'm talking mainly about race here...
    You may be on to something maybe they arent people.
  • Hunter MagHunter Mag Member Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't have to be 100% correct or accurate. [8D]
    White men can't jump.
  • steeltoe1978steeltoe1978 Member Posts: 3,248
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978
    ...as it pertains to people/race.

    To me, a stereotype is a generalization of a race that has come about because a MAJORITY of the people in that race act in a certain way. If this weren't the case, there wouldn't be any stereotypes. It's a reputation. While it is not 100% accurate to label the entire race based on the actions of a MAJORITY of the population of people within that race, the MAJORITY has set the reputation for the entire race which includes the minority of that population, and you then have a stereotype. Again, it's not 100% accurate to portray every person within a certain race as being a certain way simply because of the actions of the MAJORITY of people within that race; however, it's better, in my opinion, to err on the side of caution when dealing with those people who have a negative stereotype associated with them. Screw being PC. A good person is a good person in my book, and a bad one is a bad one REGARDLESS of race, but, I'll still err on the side of caution.

    Your thoughts?
    So, its true that the MAJORITY of people from Alabama only have three teeth, and have sex with thier relatives OK..I guess I got to go with your definition.


    Is Alabama a race? Yes, I did say "as it pertains to people/race" but I'm talking mainly about race here...
    You may be on to something maybe they arent people.


    People in the sense of people in general... i.e. human beings. Race as it pertains to ethnicity. I knew that I should have just stated race to avoid confusion, but hindsight is 20/20.
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I actually agree with your first post only I would put the word minority everywhere the word majority is used. The media, ALL forms helps to develop "stereotypes"...the public hears it enough and it becomes fact. There is my 2 cents on the subject. And I will let this thread take shape with no further input.
  • steeltoe1978steeltoe1978 Member Posts: 3,248
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Hunter Mag
    I don't have to be 100% correct or accurate. [8D]
    White men can't jump.


    YOU'RE RACIST!!!! [:D][:o)][:D]
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    They all look the same to me.[:o)]'s
  • steeltoe1978steeltoe1978 Member Posts: 3,248
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    I actually agree with your first post only I would put the word minority everywhere the word majority is used. The media, ALL forms helps to develop "stereotypes"...the public hears it enough and it becomes fact. There is my 2 cents on the subject. And I will let this thread take shape with no further input.


    Ok, that's some good input there, and I believe I'll stay hands off for a bit and let the topic take shape as well.
  • spurgemasturspurgemastur Member Posts: 5,655 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Stereotype: a prevailing generalization regarding a particular group, by another group, sometimes informed by selective observation and usually crafted as a convenient truism to justify and propagate a prejudicial world view.

    White people can't dance.
    Asians are studious.
    Black people are lazy.
    Black people have sub-normal intelligence.
    Jews are greedy.
    Jews are good business people.
    Liberals are stupid.
    Conservatives lack compassion.
    Scholars are inept.
    Laborers are dumb.
  • Hunter MagHunter Mag Member Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978
    quote:Originally posted by Hunter Mag
    I don't have to be 100% correct or accurate. [8D]
    White men can't jump.


    YOU'RE RACIST!!!! [:D][:o)][:D]

    [:D]Wait I forgot I'm white. LMAO [:D]
    Oh ship your right that does make me racist.[B)]
  • jon ojon o Member Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    DUMB [V][V][V]
  • JorgeJorge Member Posts: 10,656 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978

    because a MAJORITY of the people in that race act in a certain way.




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    Must disagree.

    A stereotype is an oversimplified opinion, or rather an illusion, as it relates to the behavior of a group of people one is unfamiliar with, and is based not on the actions of a silent majority, but rather on the way a loud minority is perceived to behave.

    Let's take for example "system analysts". I personally have had little, if any, personal contact with a systems analyst, however, have been exposed to many of them "nerds" through Hollywood movies. My ideal vision of a systems analyst is a highly intelligent, but narrow minded individual lacking any and all social skills and sense of fashion. They may fantasize about having the prowess of a tiger, however, would not be able to deal with ice cream upon a real life encounter. In short, THE MAJORITY of systems analysts (in my narrow minded opinion) are social morons.

    Now please tell me: I'm I accurate in my description of systems analysts, or am I once again sadly mistaken?

    R/

    Dr D.
  • bigtirebigtire Member Posts: 24,800
    edited November -1
    Calling a spade a spade. [:D]
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:has come about because a MAJORITY of the people in that race act in a certain way.

    That is a stereotype, and it is incorrect. It is not that a majority act a certain way, it is that the selective perception is that they do, which has nothing to do with how they actually act.

    The stereotype says nothing accurate about its target, but speaks volumes about its perpetrator.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steeltoe1978
    So let's have a good discussion.


    define stereotype...

    play nice-[;)]
  • AZEXAZEX Member Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, I know I misspelled "judgement".

    D.

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  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    I'm not trying to cause any consternation here...I just wish to say_________(fill in the blank).

    If you accept stereotyping as valid, then this post is not about stereotyping. Joe
  • M1GarandloverM1Garandlover Member Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Unfortunately stereotypes exist and it is only human nature. Just like people say "first impressions are everything". It is unfortunate that a few bad apples can spoil the bunch. I must admit that I too tend to stereotype. I am not a biggot,I hate equal. I just have my beliefs. Alot of it comes down to first impressions or life experiences.(Have You Been Done Wrong, By This Certain Race Denomination ect.. ect..) If you asked some members of the Greatest Generation like my Grandmother/deceased Grandfather, he or she would tell you of his/her strong beliefs/opinion of any type of Asian regardless of what country they may be from. To them they are all Japanese and they strongly voices thier opinion on the matter. Like I said," It all comes down to first impressions, have you been done wrong and to what degree, and what time period did you grow up/live in. Each generation will have there own views and or stereoptypes."
  • Colt SuperColt Super Member Posts: 31,007
    edited November -1
    You are all nuts.

    Doug
  • AZEXAZEX Member Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We're dicks too, but mostly nuts.

    D.
  • fishermanbenfishermanben Member Posts: 15,370
    edited November -1
    My brother in law is just finishing his Phd in sociology, and a good bit of that has been studying race relations.

    He used this analogy. "If I ask you for a cup of coffee, and you bring me one in a small paper dixie cup, then you have given me what I asked for; however, you failed to accept a stereotype. Naturally you know that when I asked for a cup of coffee, that I meant a small cup with a handle on it. You have never been told that, but through similar experience you know what it should be. We all stereotype everyday. It's how we draw conclusions when we don't have 100% of the information, but have similar experiences to draw upon."

    Ben
  • zipperzapzipperzap Member Posts: 25,057
    edited November -1
    animal dancers eventually melt down
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    when you assume all sellers sell great guns on gunbroker.....
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
  • OdawgpOdawgp Member Posts: 5,380 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    - All gun owners are criminals

    - guns kill people

    - assault weapons and sniper rifles are BAD
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bang Box
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    an assumption based on a pre-conceived idea or thought, without weighing the actual circumstances.
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
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