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How much longer for the AK 47?

vipereatervipereater Member Posts: 90
edited June 2002 in General Discussion
We all know that the AK 47 is a true assault weapon. How much longer before the fed ban them from the US market or worse yet ownership? Would the 7.62x39 ammo be banned first or the weapon?

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

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  • treedawgtreedawg Member Posts: 321 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i've never been assaulted with one. have you????
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    I have, but it wasn't in America! Besides, I got to assault back.

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    All I know is, if you want something, get it while the getting is good. And plenty of ammo too. It's cheaper in bulk anyway. Just buy stuff that will store a good long while.

    - Life NRA Member
    "If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi vipereater, you're relatively new as a poster. You responded to one of my threads a little while back, so I'm going to take this as a real question, not a mere provocation. I hope this reply doesn't seem pedantic, but after all I'm a prof in "real" life so what do you expect? You may already know most of this, but I'm not sure, so please indulge me.

    First, a little history. (And anybody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I'm right.) The term assault rifle was coined by Hitler himself during WW2. As the military defines it, an assault rifle is a rifle capable of being selectively fired in at least two of the following modes: automatic (keeps firing as long as you hold the trigger), burst (fixed number of rounds fired for one trigger pull), semi-automatic (one shot per trigger pull). A true AK-47 or clone (like the garage shop knock-offs you can buy in Pakistan for $75) fits this definition.

    The so-called AK-47s that U.S. civilians can legally buy (in most states) are not actually true AK-47s, but have been modified to allow semi-automatic fire only. So technically, they are not assault rifles. Just to take one example out of many, the auction below says "AK-47" but if you look at the fine print, it is really a "WASR-10". If you were to take one of these and modify it to be a true AK-47, that would be a big no-no.
    http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=4275129

    The term assault weapon was invented to ban certain rifles and shotguns that scared ignorant people. The definition of assault weapon is cosmetic. A semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine is an assault weapon if it has any two of the following features: (1) pistol grip, (2) folding stock, (3) bayonet mount, (4) flash suppressor or screws for one, (5) grenade launcher. What they were trying to do was to ban rifles that "look like" military rifles with no regard for actual capabilities. The so-called "AK-47" you are talking about doesn't fit that definition because it only has one feature, the pistol grip.

    Of course, in reality, a deranged person or criminal could cause just as much havoc with or without any of those features. So the whole idea is stupid.

    Now, as to what the antis are going to try next, if you follow the news you will see the following trends:

    1. Make gun ownership socially unacceptable.

    2. Sue gun manufacturers for all crimes and accidents involving guns.

    3. Tax ammunition.

    The antis will fight like crazy to get the 1994 assault weapon ban extended before it sunsets in 2004. They may or may not do that, but it doesn't look like the present climate is good for more outright bans at the federal level beyond what has already been done. Ideas 1 and 2 are especially good for the antis because they can be advanced by relatively small numbers of dedicated, unelected people.
  • vipereatervipereater Member Posts: 90
    edited November -1
    Blade, Thanks for teaching us newbies. I'm speaking more into the future (20, 40, 60+ years out) and of US legal semi-automatic AK's. As the antis eat away at our gun ownership privileges, it seems assured that the fed takes away that toy or deems it more useless by taking away accessories or ammo (the consumables). Will we see a future fed that uses names of those that has registered an AK or an AK style weapon? Maybe this is already going on. If they sued gun manufactures for gun related crimes wouldn't that put mfg's out of business?
    offeror's buying while he can. Hmmm.

    The ammo costs less but I go though it ten times faster.

    You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't seriously see a specific ban on only AK-47 style rifles at the federal level. If they go that far, they will go after all semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines, perhaps excepting .22 rifles like the Ruger 10/22. What insane socialist states like Kalifornia might do is anyone's guess.
  • beantolebeantole Member Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gordian Blade is correct. The "AK 47's" we buy are not legally assault weapons. It is a lie pushed by the media to instill hate for gunowners in the public and works with some low intellect people. I also agree that the feds will not ban the ones being sold now but communist states like Kalifornia and New Jersey and Illinois probably will do so. My advice is to get one or two while you can.

    Bruce
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