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need opinions on....
Jack Tors
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im looking for a small home defense weapon. i dont want to spend more than 500 dollars. ive been looking at guns such as the ab-10 and others of that type. can anyone give me opinions on guns of that type. i like uzi but seems to be too expensive. are there any other options? thanks.
jack tors
www.skimpythongs.com
jack tors
www.skimpythongs.com
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I can't comment on sub guns, I don't have much experience with them.
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jack tors
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My humble opinion for the average person.
"We become what we habitually do. If we act rightly, we become upright men. If we habitually act wrongly, or weakly, we become weak and corrupt" - *ARISTOTLE*
**Like Grandad used to say--"It'll feel better when it quits hurtin"
For starters, check out the mini Glocks: G26 (9mm), G27 (.40), and so forth. You might also like the little Berettas or even the Walther PPK style.
We only have a few special years with our children in which they desire our time, attention, and love. After that time is over, it is gone forever, and we will be the ones that desire their time, attention, and love. Make those few, short years count -
One thing a lot of people forget in home defense is the use of a quality high intensity light like the SureFire or Streamlight. You just can't beat the intimidation factor of a pump shotgun being racked in the middle of the night in a quiet house, universally known as the sound of Please Leave NOW.
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I would say that you should go with a Glock compact.. say the G29 or the G30... extremely compact...packs tons of punch...perfect for concealment(no hammers to get snagged) double action only, no safteys, except the 2stage trigger, and if you drop it, it wont go off. Both of these guns are extremely heavy in the firepower dept. the 29 is in 10mm, and the 30 is in .45acp......plus you can find one for about $450 dollars......hmmm....sounds like a winner too me!
lets all be responsible! shoot a criminal!
Mudge the defender
I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
Hope your not a HUSKY? cough,choke,gag.
If so, a big gun will be quick and painless.
A hot barrel, is a warm fuzzy feeling.
For a firearm intended to defend one's home I would advise against any shotgun or rifle. Too long to handle in tight hallways and small rooms. May get jumped in dark by intruder and a long gun is an invitation for him to grab it and try to take it away from you.
What are you doing wandering through hallways and rooms? If you have an intruder, retreat to a 'safe room' which can be defined as a room with a solid, lockable door, in which you keep a telephone and a means of defense (a shotgun being one of the best). Get in your 'safe room' and call the police. The shotgun is only if the intruder attempts to enter your 'safe' room.
BTW, mounting a flashlight on your gun (be it a shotgun or a handgun) does accomplish one positive thing - it gives the bad guy a great positive aiming point!!!!
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Also consider where you live, and how many people are in your home. Shotguns are a good choice for people who live in apartments and/or have children. The first shell or two can be beanbag rounds, which are far less likely to be lethal. Secondly, the shotgun can be loaded with birdshot, which is devastating on impact but has very little penetration value when compared to a bullet. Most physicians will tell you birdshot wounds are generally the ugliest. Birdshot also won't penetrate more than one or two layers of dry wall unless you're point blank. Shotguns are heavier and more difficult to operate for small hands. I disagree with Saxon. I think if your in a "panic situation while still groggy and not thinking clearly" you'll have a much better chance of hitting your target with a shotgun. Any weapon can be taken from you. Practice clearing your rooms. Training pays off in the long run...
Just a thought...
Munkey
Don't worry about the bullet with your name on it, worry about the fragmentation grenade addressed 'To Occupant'.
PS I guess the shotgun would be easier for you to take away from the bad guy if he got it away from you too. Hmm, I'm not sure what I think anymore.
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Listen to the Lt and Saxon we know what we're talking about.
There is the possibility (however slight) that an auto will jam. Unless you are very well trained in clerance drills/malfunction drills this is bad news in a stress situation. With the exception of a few auto models w/no safety you also have that issue to contend with under stress conditions. GO WITH A REVOLVER.
"We become what we habitually do. If we act rightly, we become upright men. If we habitually act wrongly, or weakly, we become weak and corrupt" - *ARISTOTLE*
**Like Grandad used to say--"It'll feel better when it quits hurtin"
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Just my oppinion sir.
Woods
How big a boy are ya?
If I knew then, what I know now.
I am with you on that 27 smith. Smoothest trigger of any gun I have ever shot. That and my model 12 army 20" riot loaded with birdshot. Forget the rubber bullets. They taught me to never point a gun at anything you didn't want to kill.
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That way when said perp sues, if he lives, or his family, you were just a bird hunter defending your family and sheetrock will generally stop it from over penetrating.
(1) Welcome!
(2) While I agree w/ much which has been said here, my vote is for a manual action no matter what. If a semi-auto jams in the field or on the range, no biggie . . . and hopefully you are more than half awake. Rousted out of bed, adrenaline pumping, the simpler the better. If your M1100 should jam, will you have the time & presence of mind to clear it?
Inexpensive 12 ga pump w/ bird shot, as so many others have advocated. As a backup, a revolver - period. For the same reasons as above. Check out the new RBCD handgun ammo; designed to lose all it's energy on impact = low penetration of structural elements and max damage to perps. I picked some of this up & was very impressed with what it does / does not do in my limited personal tests (stuff is very expensive). In tight quarters, I'd be as comfortable as the situation warranted w/ my .38 snubby and that load. It is available in virtually all common handgun calibers, BTW. This is now my carry ammo in all handguns.
As for your pistol, you said you didn't like revolvers and I respect that particularly because the trigger pull is heavier, the wife or girlfriend may not be able to shoot it easily and the fact that there are only five or six rounds means that if you miss you are running out of ammo too fast. There's no need to buy a huge gun now that the mag capacity has been reduced to 10 by law. Glocks ARE very size efficient and have a reputation for reliability with very little break-in shooting. They come in literally all sizes, so there's no question about your finding one to fit your hand. They are simple to learn too.
There ARE other good choices in compacts. I like the HK USPs, but they will cost a little more than your $500. Even Glocks retail around $525 now at some dealers' shops. So shop around. Other worthwhile choices of a semi-auto that's not "too big" would include a large number of .40 caliber models. Stay away from the cheap-o Hi Points. They're the only Saturday Night Specials left on the market. Any semi-auto by Browning, Glock, ParaOrdnance, HK, Colt, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, and yes, CZ and EAA may make you quite happy. As somebody else said, hold several in your hand. Check their ease of trigger pull. Rack the slide. Drop the magazine and re-insert it.
By the way, the Glock standard trigger pull is about 5 pounds, while the average revolver or double action gun is 12 pounds -- more than I like. The Taurus Milleniums are a nice 9 pounds, which is fine. I believe the new ParaOrd LDA triggers are about 7 pounds. ParaOrdnance still provides coupons for high capacity magazines with your purchase, so you might wind up with a bonus if you get a larger ParaOrd. But that's less of an issue if you're buying a compact, since most compacts hold 9 to 11 .40 caliber rounds at best anyway, double-stacked.
If you find double-stacks too fat in the grip, try the new Glock single stack models.
-- Life NRA Member
"If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
BTW, on the few occasions when I answer the door later than I like, I carry a revolver, simply because handling both door and shotgun is a bit awkward (and the handgun is VERY close to my recliner )
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