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Matt Csanyi is a senior majoring in education.
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Published Wednesday, April 4, 2001
The Senate passed Senator John McCain's campaign finance reform legislation Monday, restricting the amount of money various individuals and groups would be allowed to donate as "soft money." This is good news. It is especially good news for those of us who favor increased gun control. Why? Because one group, the National Rifle Association, notorious for buying gun-friendly candidate's victories, will see its dark grip on national politics eased.
That said, now might be the time to refresh everyone's memory as to exactly what the NRA believes, what it's done in the past and why its existence is a thorn in the nation's side. And, considering that my opportunities to belittle the NRA (something I've been wanting to do for quite some time now) are dwindling like words in Charleton Heston's vocabulary, I'd say the time is at hand.
I'd like to begin by calling the majority of the NRA's members less than intelligent. These are the good folks who won't be swayed by any amount of relevant, statistical proof, so it doesn't matter what I say because they will all hate me no matter what.
If this is you, stop reading right now. You probably have better things to do anyway, like filling Bambi full of hot lead or protecting your trailer from armed intruders.
But be careful -- they might be trying to steal your collection of NASCAR shot glasses! Or, even worse, they may try to cut a lock from your beautiful, flowing mullet while you sleep! Better train the kids to use the sawed-off shotgun!
And then there are the members of the NRA who may not have fully considered the consequences of their stance on gun control. These are the individuals with whom I'd like a word. They have been misled by the propaganda spewed forth by those cap-poppin' good ol' boys down at NRA headquarters. It's hard not to believe them -- they have the Second Amendment on their side, right? Wrong.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you your Second Amendment: "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Eloquent, huh?
Seems to me the right to bear arms is pretty heavily tied into having a well-regulated militia, no? And, as it turns out, we already have a well-regulated militia. You might have heard of it -- it's called the National Guard. It was established in 1903. So, even if some limey Brit tries to sneak into my backyard and knock me out of my hammock, it's not my job to pop him. And I don't really want Billy Bob protecting me with his AK-47 assault rifle he usually uses for squirrel hunting, either.
Use your heads, people. The Second Amendment was written in 1793, when there was a legitimate fear of a tyrannical national government and other oppressive groups. Remember, in 1793 they also used to bleed you to cure a case of the sniffles. Can you say outdated?
Our judicial system can. Did you know that no federal court has ever overturned a gun control law on the basis of the Second Amendment?
The only true barrier to real restrictions on guns is the $15.8 million the NRA has paid out to congressional representatives since 1989 to keep gun control legislation off the books, according to the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.
Still proud to be an American?
Even if our forefathers had felt it reasonable for us to tote Uzi's around in our backpacks, on a practical level it would still be too dangerous. Common sense should tell us that our right to shoot animals and beer cans in our backyards does not supercede a person's right to live in safety. And when stupid people get ahold of guns (and we know most people are, in fact, stupid), people get hurt.
Nobody's going to shoot you when they're robbing your house, *! They want your DVD player, not the electric chair. Statistics show gun owners are far more likely to shoot themselves, a family member or a pet rather than any sort of intruder. According to a 1998 ABCnews.com poll, only 20 percent of gun owners store their weapons unlocked and unloaded. Now that is tragic.
Firearm injuries are the second leading cause of death of youth ages 10-24 nationwide, according to the Center for Disease Control. In case you're wondering, the leading cause of death for this age group is car accidents. The difference with this is that we need cars. We don't need guns.
So, if you gunslingers out there are still listening, put 'em down. Isn't saving thousands of lives worth the price of finding a new hobby? I say it's certainly worth a shot. no pun intended.
Do not mistake my kindness for weakness.
IALEFI, ASLET, NRA, and proud owner of a pair of S&W revolvers.
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Published Wednesday, April 4, 2001
The Senate passed Senator John McCain's campaign finance reform legislation Monday, restricting the amount of money various individuals and groups would be allowed to donate as "soft money." This is good news. It is especially good news for those of us who favor increased gun control. Why? Because one group, the National Rifle Association, notorious for buying gun-friendly candidate's victories, will see its dark grip on national politics eased.
That said, now might be the time to refresh everyone's memory as to exactly what the NRA believes, what it's done in the past and why its existence is a thorn in the nation's side. And, considering that my opportunities to belittle the NRA (something I've been wanting to do for quite some time now) are dwindling like words in Charleton Heston's vocabulary, I'd say the time is at hand.
I'd like to begin by calling the majority of the NRA's members less than intelligent. These are the good folks who won't be swayed by any amount of relevant, statistical proof, so it doesn't matter what I say because they will all hate me no matter what.
If this is you, stop reading right now. You probably have better things to do anyway, like filling Bambi full of hot lead or protecting your trailer from armed intruders.
But be careful -- they might be trying to steal your collection of NASCAR shot glasses! Or, even worse, they may try to cut a lock from your beautiful, flowing mullet while you sleep! Better train the kids to use the sawed-off shotgun!
And then there are the members of the NRA who may not have fully considered the consequences of their stance on gun control. These are the individuals with whom I'd like a word. They have been misled by the propaganda spewed forth by those cap-poppin' good ol' boys down at NRA headquarters. It's hard not to believe them -- they have the Second Amendment on their side, right? Wrong.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you your Second Amendment: "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Eloquent, huh?
Seems to me the right to bear arms is pretty heavily tied into having a well-regulated militia, no? And, as it turns out, we already have a well-regulated militia. You might have heard of it -- it's called the National Guard. It was established in 1903. So, even if some limey Brit tries to sneak into my backyard and knock me out of my hammock, it's not my job to pop him. And I don't really want Billy Bob protecting me with his AK-47 assault rifle he usually uses for squirrel hunting, either.
Use your heads, people. The Second Amendment was written in 1793, when there was a legitimate fear of a tyrannical national government and other oppressive groups. Remember, in 1793 they also used to bleed you to cure a case of the sniffles. Can you say outdated?
Our judicial system can. Did you know that no federal court has ever overturned a gun control law on the basis of the Second Amendment?
The only true barrier to real restrictions on guns is the $15.8 million the NRA has paid out to congressional representatives since 1989 to keep gun control legislation off the books, according to the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.
Still proud to be an American?
Even if our forefathers had felt it reasonable for us to tote Uzi's around in our backpacks, on a practical level it would still be too dangerous. Common sense should tell us that our right to shoot animals and beer cans in our backyards does not supercede a person's right to live in safety. And when stupid people get ahold of guns (and we know most people are, in fact, stupid), people get hurt.
Nobody's going to shoot you when they're robbing your house, *! They want your DVD player, not the electric chair. Statistics show gun owners are far more likely to shoot themselves, a family member or a pet rather than any sort of intruder. According to a 1998 ABCnews.com poll, only 20 percent of gun owners store their weapons unlocked and unloaded. Now that is tragic.
Firearm injuries are the second leading cause of death of youth ages 10-24 nationwide, according to the Center for Disease Control. In case you're wondering, the leading cause of death for this age group is car accidents. The difference with this is that we need cars. We don't need guns.
So, if you gunslingers out there are still listening, put 'em down. Isn't saving thousands of lives worth the price of finding a new hobby? I say it's certainly worth a shot. no pun intended.
Do not mistake my kindness for weakness.
IALEFI, ASLET, NRA, and proud owner of a pair of S&W revolvers.
Comments
what an *!!
barto
the hard stuff we do right away - the impossible takes a little longer
Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.
A unarmed man is a subject.A armed man is a citizen.
So he thinks the 2nd amendment is outdated. Well if that were the case then the first would be outdated also, and we wouldn't have to read this idiots opnion.
The facts are that the first amendment is just as relevant today as it was when penned to paper. And the second is even more important.
Just my .02 cents worth.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Time to go. I've got to go take the sawed off away from the 3 year old or she'll shoot the neighbor again and my mullet is about dry so I'd best comb it before I kiss my sister/wife goodbye and go to work at the gas station.
Cleatus
"We become what we habitually do. If we act rightly, we become upright men. If we habitually act wrongly, or weakly, we become weak and corrupt" - *ARISTOTLE*
**Like Grandad used to say--"It'll feel better when it quits hurtin"
This "putz" needs to do a bit more research. When the unconstitutional portions of Campaign Finance Reform are struck down by the Supreme Court (as surely they will be), ALL organizations, (the NRA, GOA, CCRKBA, ACLU, AGS) pro-gun, anti-gun, pro or anti anything, will have a LOT more power. They'll be able to collect and use as much "soft" money as they want, any way they want. Possibly the Commie bastids that drafted that POS weren't aware of these "unintended consequences" but I wouldn't bet on it. The snakes plan the "infringements" down to the last dotted "i".
Mudge the patient
I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
Edited by - mudge on 04/30/2002 10:12:02
Edited by - mudge on 04/30/2002 10:13:23
-- Life NRA Member
If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
... I'da started younger
What a
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Sometimes the most obvious, is the most elusive!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
Edited by - kimberkid on 04/30/2002 10:53:59
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
Thanks
Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
I suppose Mr. Csanyi believes that the pen is mightier than the .45, even though I have yet to see any "relavant statistical proof". Later today, when I go to the range, I will set up a scientific study documenting the effects of each. I'm thinking a series of empty milk cartons filled with water, a Glock 31, and a pack of Bic medium-points with black ink. The title of my dissertation will be "The effects and physics of high-velocity lead projectiles in a liquid medium as opposed to the effects and physics of cylindrical polyethylene writing utensils when thrown at an armed subject". I'll let you know the results when my study is completed, but my preliminiary hypothesis is that the .357 Sig projectiles will have a much greater effect than throwing Bics. Good stuff to know when confronting an armed intruder bent on doing you * harm.
It's not a matter of being biased or unbiased...it's a matter of which bias is the best bias with which to be biased.
signed,
Trailer trash kid.... with a $411,000 mortgage (I live in Kalifornia!)
... Oh cripes ... What about riding lawn mowers ... and outdoor grills ... and does that mean I have to throw away my personally autographed can of Billy Beer (President Jimmy Carters brother)
What ever happened to the democraps being "for the working man" and the "American WAY of Life" ... seems like they have forgotten from where they came ... and who the Americans are ...
... and they call themselves TOLLERANT
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Sometimes the most obvious, is the most elusive!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
Chris8161
Admit nothing, deny everything, demand proof!
Nuff.said
Edited by - poolshot on 04/30/2002 15:41:06
I admit that I am less than intelligent....
I don't live in a trailer home,
but I'm no better than someone who does.
I don't collect NASCAR shot glasses,
but I'm no better than someone who does.
I do believe in the Constitution of the United States (ALL of it, not just some parts like you do)
If it wasn't for the First Admendment, idiots like you would not be able to write the trash that you write.
The Second Admendment that you and your ilk so revile was written at the same time, and it's content is as clear as a bell to those of us who are less intelligent than you??? (Maybe you're not so intelligent after all).
Yes, I'm VERY proud to be an American.
Yes, I,m very proud to be a member of the NRA
And lastly, I'm more of a man than you can ever hope to be.....
-Charlie
"It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
I hope my children have graduated before this drip actually becomes a teacher.
Do not mistake my kindness for weakness.
IALEFI, ASLET, NRA, and proud owner of a pair of S&W revolvers.
I got the article through the Michigan Militia web page. Often they have some good info. If you type in Michigan Militia in the search engine it should come right up. About a third of the way down the page is the link to the web site that posted the letter, and a link to the punks email address. Let him have it. I sent one, and it hasen't gotten returned, yet anyway.
Do not mistake my kindness for weakness.
IALEFI, ASLET, NRA, and proud owner of a pair of S&W revolvers.
Save, research, then buy the best.Join the NRA, NOW!Teach them young, teach them safe, teach them forever, but most of all, teach them to VOTE!
mcsanyi@indiana.edu......I would think this server is only for current students.
Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
I wonder if this is him.
What a loser.
"The great object is that every man.... everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry
Edited by - turbo on 04/30/2002 21:04:34
If any of you is an Indiana Alumn. you may be able to get an e-mail address fot him through the alumni association. If you do, send it to me. I would like to chat with him.
Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis