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effective range?

glowplug47glowplug47 Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
edited September 2002 in General Discussion
What would be the effective range (Texas Hill Country Deer) of a 9mm rifle with off the shelf ammo.
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  • glowplug47glowplug47 Member Posts: 9 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What would be the effective range (Texas Hill Country Deer) of a 9mm rifle with off the shelf ammo.
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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    50 feet on the outside! 9 MM is WAY to small/weak for deer (even puny little Texas deer).
    While I am sure that a 9MM could kill a deer, I doubt if most could place one accurately enough to assure a clean, quick kill. Yeah, I've heard of (and seen) deer killed with a .22, it still isn't an ethical choice to use a caliber where there is a HIGH probability that the animal will not be killed clean and will run and possibly be lost.

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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shootist- I always heard that Texas had big deer, but recently I have seen a lot of people say that Texas got some tiny deer. Have I been misinformed? Are they small or big? Maybe I heard they have big racks. Oh I dont know..

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  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    No, they were talking about the texas women...

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    BLAM BLAM BLAM!

    Edited by - thesupermonkey on 09/09/2002 14:09:02
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Why are there two of these?

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  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    Would hunt deer with a 38 Spl? Not a nickel's worth of differance in Ballistics

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  • txnhntrtxnhntr Member Posts: 136 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    texas deer in general are small 150 pounds or so , but in alot of areas the racks definitly make up for the lack of venison do not swhoot at a deer with a 9mm itis just not smart.

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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Boomerang- So you can get another star sooner!

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  • paboogerpabooger Member Posts: 13,953
    edited November -1
    Ok give me one shot with my camp nine at 100Yds, ill even give you a running start, then well discuss effective range!!!!
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Pabooger - He was asking about deer not varmints.

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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shootist...Great response, X-Ring!!! Stand by for all the Texans to gang up on you and start describing their 475 pound heavily muscled deer....everything is supposed to be bigger in Texas isn't it? Actually though aren't the smallest deer found in Arizona? I think they are called Cowes deer and weigh in around 65 pounds. Any Zonies out there to confirm that approximate weight? Beach
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    I was thinking the smallest deer were "key deer" found down in the Florida Keys.

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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Boomer... can you shoot them? Beach
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  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    I am not sure about that one Beach. Maybe 218 can answer that one.

    Boomer

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  • 22WRF22WRF Member Posts: 3,385
    edited November -1
    Key Deer are on the endangered species, threatened species list


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  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Actually,Texas has some of the bigger deer found in the states...some huge ranches down there started thinning out the junk deer that are native...breeding some big deer.
    I saw 100's of deer at a time,around San Angelo...a little bigger then a Kansas jackrabbit....maybe 90 pounds. They looked starved to death,to me.They have over-populated,over-grazed their range,in a lot of areas.

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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    Beach, Coues deer and Pacific Blacktail are very small (I'm not sure but what they aren't the same species (sub-species?). Texas hill country deer are pretty small also, a good sized one will run 125 to 150 on the hoof, they don't compare to those corn-fed Missouri monsters up your way.

    There was a little deer in SE Asia, about the size of a smallish hound (or a large gerbil ) that is (I think) the smallest deer in the world. Memory says it is called a 'barking' deer for the sound it makes. There is also a deer called a 'mouse' deer in that same part of the world - don't know which is smaller. (Guess I could look it up if it mattered )

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