In order to participate in the GunBroker Member forums, you must be logged in with your GunBroker.com account. Click the sign-in button at the top right of the forums page to get connected.
How did they do it? (pic)
pogybate
Member Posts: 3,150
Wondering how they got those top layers of logs up on this skid. This Michigan photo was taken in 1890. No gas operated loaders back then.
This load is a record 36,000 Bd. ft of White Pine.
[img][/img]
This load is a record 36,000 Bd. ft of White Pine.
[img][/img]
Comments
You are compareing Old and New.
There are 10 REAL MEN in the picture, those logs to them would be tooth picks.
You are compareing Old and New.
My North Idaho Logging friends would take offense. Those boys are early to bed and early to rise, I wouldn't want their job out in these steep mountains.
At least those Michigan boys had flat land. Some have come out here, worked these mountains and turned around and hurried home.
http://www.vanishedamericana.com/transportation/load-of-logs-from-michigan-for-the-1893-chicago-worlds-fair/
Or early UFOs that would talk to and help early mankind.
As for loading, there might a steam driven lift available, or an A frame with chains and pulleys. Last resort, manpower. Get enough guys pulling on a rope and you can move a lot of weight. The Egyptians built the pyramids with hundreds of men pulling on ropes to move the stone blocks.
Too old to live...too young to die...
With my knees, I couldnt do it.....
I sure just hope they didn't have to go down any inclines or hills on the way to where they were going!!
I bet the horses hoped that too.
[:p]
I watched the video too... Very ingenious. [;)]
quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
Simple,,,,look at the chains.
There are a minimum of 4 chains. Count up three tiers and you'll see where the middle(there's two chains to that point) chain goes across the the logs to the opposite side.
Now look at the 5th and 7th tier,,,,,,there's a chain at both tiers going to the opposite side. The fourth chain ties it all together.
As the 'tiers' are secured with chains they could position horses/mules on the opposite side and use two long chains as a craddle and pull individual logs up and over to make another tier. In other words you're using existing tiers to roll the logs up and on to another layer.
That is how big/heavy logs were lifted on to each tier of many ol' log cabins,,,,,,,although two 'skid' timbers leaned at an angle against a cabin wall would accomplish the same thing,,,,if you had enough manpower to push and pull,,,,,,don't ask me how I know !!!!![;)]
Look how sad the horses look[:D]
They don't look sad, they look tired, exhausted.[B)]
Get 'em some Wheaties and beer.[:p]
Look at the load, every log is in a lay, in other words setting inbetween the 2 logs under it, that's a lay.
The logs where no doubt loaded with a crotch line, with a spreader bar and tongs or end hooks. Either powered by a team of horses, or by a small steam donkey. This process required much more skill and common sense enginering than it did brute strenth..
W.D.
There is no way those 2 horses could pull that load, no way!
The guy with the reins is the Grinch.
Capt. Jack Sparrow.
logging operations. It's quite interesting.
Enjoy!
quote:Originally posted by Joes Custom Guns
There are 10 REAL MEN in the picture, those logs to them would be tooth picks.
You are compareing Old and New.
My North Idaho Logging friends would take offense. Those boys are early to bed and early to rise, I wouldn't want their job out in these steep mountains.
At least those Michigan boys had flat land. Some have come out here, worked these mountains and turned around and hurried home.
+1
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Simple,,,,look at the chains.
There are a minimum of 4 chains. Count up three tiers and you'll see where the middle(there's two chains to that point) chain goes across the the logs to the opposite side.
Now look at the 5th and 7th tier,,,,,,there's a chain at both tiers going to the opposite side. The fourth chain ties it all together.
As the 'tiers' are secured with chains they could position horses/mules on the opposite side and use two long chains as a craddle and pull individual logs up and over to make another tier. In other words you're using existing tiers to roll the logs up and on to another layer.
That is how big/heavy logs were lifted on to each tier of many ol' log cabins,,,,,,,although two 'skid' timbers leaned at an angle against a cabin wall would accomplish the same thing,,,,if you had enough manpower to push and pull,,,,,,don't ask me how I know !!!!![;)]
Sounds like you might be able to figure out how to get an unconscious sailor on deck on a boat with 5' freeboard. Using a sail and a winch. [;)]
There were just as many smart men then, as there are now.
This video is one of the last Northeast (Maine)
logging operations. It's quite interesting.
Enjoy!
what a cool look back in time!
I have worked horses and mules all my life. 2 horses or 2 mules will not pull that load.
I as well. Even with wheels that's too much weight. Slidding them doesn't appear likely. JMO.
Clouder..