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Mexico to defend illegal immigrants in US,...
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before, the International Tribunal, the UN recently voted on.
http://www.thenewsmexico.com/noticia.asp?id=22888
This story is a few days old but, it's got to chap your hide..
Why american employers continue to employee illegal immigrants, is a mystery to me..
Democrats, are once again wanting to raise the minimum pay scale; it's just another way of raising taxes.
This kills the small business owner, and is a windfall for unskilled workers, who have no interest in ever learning any skills to earn more money.
How about unskilled illegals?? all this will accomplish is higher prices on goods; it doesn't garauntee better quality.
Congress does get the message, or WE the people haven't made ourselves clear enough.
We the tax payor, are fighting battles on all sides, with no help from our own government.
No end to it..
"The great object is that every man.... everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry
http://www.thenewsmexico.com/noticia.asp?id=22888
This story is a few days old but, it's got to chap your hide..
Why american employers continue to employee illegal immigrants, is a mystery to me..
Democrats, are once again wanting to raise the minimum pay scale; it's just another way of raising taxes.
This kills the small business owner, and is a windfall for unskilled workers, who have no interest in ever learning any skills to earn more money.
How about unskilled illegals?? all this will accomplish is higher prices on goods; it doesn't garauntee better quality.
Congress does get the message, or WE the people haven't made ourselves clear enough.
We the tax payor, are fighting battles on all sides, with no help from our own government.
No end to it..
"The great object is that every man.... everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry
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Only in America a homeless war veteran slept in a cardboard box while a draft dodger slept in the white house...NEVER AGAIN!!
My squads are consistently finding loads of illegals. It is a pathetic situation and must stop. The general public has no real clue of the scope of this problem. Whatever the intentions and/or character of the Illegal Aliens we must stop the influx into this country.
NOTHING is to be gained by this except a strain on services/taxpayers and a dilution of the american culture.
For those who say there is little or no cost in allowing this invasion I defer to my wife who works in an Emergency Room. Illegals go there in droves for routine treatment/minor medical care and GUESS who foots the bill??????????????????????
I feel beter now after venting
"We become what we habitually do. If we act rightly, we become upright men. If we habitually act wrongly, or weakly, we become weak and corrupt" - *ARISTOTLE*
**Like Grandad used to say--"It'll feel better when it quits hurtin"
Hows, legalizing, drugs, different from legalizing the llegals?
Only dreamers would argue that by legalizing both, the problems caused by both, will be gone, tomorrow.
It seems to me, the american public is sooo, confused.
"The great object is that every man.... everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry
Lets call it what it is, a "peaceful invasion" and quit allowing it to happen. Find who's here illegally, ship them off to where they came from and close the Border as best we can with the necessary resourses. Period.
Enough is enough.
"We become what we habitually do. If we act rightly, we become upright men. If we habitually act wrongly, or weakly, we become weak and corrupt" - *ARISTOTLE*
**Like Grandad used to say--"It'll feel better when it quits hurtin"
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P.S.I guess we are going to have to start learning Spanish because if some calculations I recently saw are correct then Hispanics will make up the majority of the populations in the states of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, Oklahoma, and Nevada by 2020 and that's only 18 years away.....Does anybody know how to say, "Where is GunBroker" in Spanish? Beach
I know your partially american indian, I'am curious, do you live on a reservation? Reason why I ask, is I worked for an indian owned construction firm on their reservation and they were doing quite a bit of building, do to their succesfull casino operation.
Anyhow, they employ quite a few mexican immigrants, whether they were legal or illegal I had no knowledge of, but, I remember thinking that if they were illegal, they were safe as bug in a rug, since the reservations are considered sovereign, and the federal government I'm sure would do nothing to enforce immigrations laws.
The statement concerning the language is true, luckily, spanish is probably the easiest language to learn, the alphabet is almost identical to english except for additional cc, ch, rr, and a few other letters which emphasize the letter being pronounced.
Were in for a good ride on this issue, as It seems to me liberals seem to want more freedom to do what they want and even will fight for the same rights for illegals, afterall they are the ones behind this movement to give them amnesty and conservatives seem to joining them.
In my opinion thats foolishnes.
"The great object is that every man.... everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry
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In any case your question about illegals working on the reservation is a good one..and I sure don't know the answer. Beach
& California we would be the illegals now. Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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... the Mexicans will take back everything we stole from them.
Your quoting the words that have become the mantra of liberal hispanic movement in KA. except it says "what was stolen from us."
I think everyone that is on this wagon trying to get the Federal Government to allow freedom to do anything anybody wnts to is making a big mistake.
Since womens right, homosexual rights, civil rights for blacks, have been recognized a class rights, illegals will get special rights under a hispanic movement for hispanic rights, out of this libertrarian agenda seeking for total legalization of anything and everything.
Mark my words, we will be worse off with any relaxation of existing laws, in the interest of individual freedoms.
All because, people are starting to scream for doing away with laws rather the enforcement of the existing laws.
"The great object is that every man.... everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry
Donde? esta es Gunbroker.
The problem will not be fixed until the government wishes to solve it. IE: 15 time smugglers who are not prosecuted, Illegals returned to Mexico without a criminal record. In most cases the INS can't even seize a vehicle used in smuggling.
Border Security is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. In fact: U.S. Customs and U.S. Immigration Inspectors are not even considered Primary Law Enforcement Officers. They don't recieve the same benefits given to Border Patrol Agents, Special Agents. Postal Inspectors or even Amtrak Police. Just something to think about next time the Government talks about those on the frontline.
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There will just be a vocal group, such as some of us, who will be continually branded as "racist" or "right wing" or "paranoid. We will be told that the flood of Illegals benefit the USA and we shouldn't worry because they will assimilate to the "American Culture" as Legal Imigrants from many countries have done in the past--B*ll Sh*t. All things are now provided in Spanish i.e. TV, Newspapers, Voting, Signs, even large retail establishments provide Spanish signage. There is NO incentive to learn English or assimilate to our culture and many make no effort to do so. I see more Mexican Flags displayed on vehicles etc.. than I do US Flags/symbols in my area. Cinco De Mayo (Mexican Independance Day) has bigger celebrations/parades here than the Fourth of July. Where does the allegiance lie???
As I said in previous posts I have first hand knowledge of how large the problem is as I and my troops are in it waist deep EVERY DAY. It doesn't end and it is way larger than you realize.
We are a nation of sheep on a slippery slope and who knows what is at the bottom.
Lt.
"We become what we habitually do. If we act rightly, we become upright men. If we habitually act wrongly, or weakly, we become weak and corrupt" - *ARISTOTLE*
**Like Grandad used to say--"It'll feel better when it quits hurtin"
2. What part of stole from Mexico do you have a problem with?
Crying shame I have to spend so much effort teaching grade school
history to people that should have stayed awake in school.
I don't know what issue your trying to, raise or even make of my statement; I quoted your, quote where you stated "we" (refering to the US. stealing)"from them", (refering to the mexico) while refering to Texas and Kalifornia.
I had previously posted from another site an article, where they (liberal mexican activists in this country) plainly state their objectives of taking back what was stolen from them.
Which, we both obviously agree with.
Whether Texas or Kalifornia, were purchased from or, taken from, makes, no never mind to me, today; the fact is that they are states of the US of A, and there is border that ought to be respected, defended, guarded. and sealed off at the will of the people.
The US of A, is not mexico however, it is rapidly becoming hispanic.
By the way, if I wanted to study history, I wouldn't seek out a mail carrier, but, I would consult a historian. Naturally.
"The great object is that every man.... everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry
The point I wish to make is that we are repeating the same mistake that Mexico made. The Mexicans did not restrict immigration from
the United States into these areas & the immigrants then seized
control & secceeded from Mexico.
I don't suggest that these states will rejoin Mexico but the culture, values & the political control will certainly pass into their hands.
Mexico never had the wherewithall to control borders in the first place, California, Nuevo Mexico were spanish land grants originally claimed and settled by Spain in the building of missions and pueblos, even after independence mexico never really saw them as belonging to mexico, the owners of these land grants, were aristocrats from the upper crust and military generals who had served the King of Spain and mexico, who were given these by royal decree, in some cases these owners sold their estates, in other cases squatters took them from the owners, and as you correctly have deduced, these sqatters decided to create the Sate of California which joined the union.
If you've ever visited a hispanic barrio in this country like east LA, or even little havana in Fla, you'll really get the feel for the central and south american flavor of the culture, they don't have to take these states and join mexico or any other country with them, these immigrants are going to make mexico, out of these states, and although these areas thrive in business and are well populated, they are also welfare dependent areas, which will become more populated by illegals, till they burst at the seems.
I can see your perceptive, I can see you understand the problem, your problem is communicating and reconciling the solution your views propose.
Libertarianism isn't going to solve the problem, freedom from government and abolishing laws, while promoting anarchism and open borders is what the third party wants and claims as the official position, furthmore, they also support globalism, this will lead to more chaos.
So if your really concerned, why support a party, whose official position goes against your personal position?
That makes YOU a loser two ways.
"The great object is that every man.... everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry
Based on his posts on several topics, I can say with just about perfect certainty that he is a 100% bleeding-heart Liberal.
You can do as you please, but I'll remind you that most of us rational folks dont look kindly on Liberals in sheep's clothing.
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has differing opionions from yours should not be allowed to express them is shocking. I for one truely enjoy the free exchange of ideas
& unlike you I am not afraid of engaging those who are my mental superiors.
My apolgies gruntled, on behalf of the adults.
Clouder..