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Question about bullet proof vest.

PeaPea Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
The most sophisticated vest out there can stop bullets from any automatic, my question is, can a full force blow from an arrow penetrate the armor? What are the factors that are considered? Weight? Velocity? Shape? All, which is diffrent from a speeding bullet but no doubt as deadly.Pea.
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  • jeenyesjeenyes Member Posts: 330 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A guy was demonstrating his new vest to us and had some guy to shoot him. No problem, then he had him to stab him, he then went to the hospitial for stiches. Would not want to be hit by any blade type weapon no matter what the vest costed.
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Depends on vest if only fiber (kevlar)composites a crossbow bolt will cut it as butter, if it has steel of policarbonate (lexan)trauma plates it will be a lot harder to penetrate, anyway what good does it make if i shoot for the neck or head ? or if i usea 750g .75 blackpowder buffalo Gun BALL? BOOM!SSSSSSSSSSSSSSS THUNDDDDDDD!! ARRRRGHT!
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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    Pea,I read your bio,and see this is your first day here..Welcome!! .218
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    This is nit-picking I guess, but I do not like the term, "bullet-proof vest." There is no such thing.First of all, it is not bullet-proof. Nothing is. Pointed bullets at high velocity, such as from a rifle, or even the old Winchester pointy .357 armor piercers, will poke holes in it all day.Second, it is not a vest. A vest has buttons up the front.The garment is properly called, "bullet-resistant body armor," or just, "body armor."Body armor that is designed to be worn under the clothing is generally designed only to stop handgun rounds, and the maker is usually careful to state in writing which handgun rounds. Body armor that is made to wear over the clothing, and which contains steel or ceramic plates is often rated to stop rifle rounds.Most body armor is not much resistant to sharp pointy objects, such as knives or arrow broadheads.I have seen armor for corrections personnel that was designed to resist edged weapons. It had a titanium mesh layer amongst the Kevlar.One day, during regular qualification, I decided to let the troops test some armor. We had several sets that had expired. I soaked bundles of newspaper about 12" thick overnight.We set the bundles upright in an old office chair. We wrapped the body armor around the bundles, and then shot the armor.None of the handgun rounds tested defeated the armor. We checked for blunt trauma, craters left in the paper. .38 rounds left a teeny crater. 9mm +P+ made a bigger crater. The .40 left a slightly bigger crater still.All shooting was done at about 10 feet. The 12 gauge with 00Buck did not defeat the armor, but made such a crater at 10 feet that it would definitely ruin the wearer's day.Then we shot a set of armor with a 12 gauge slug. Eye opener. Defeated the front panel. Fully penetrated the newspaper. Defeated the back panel, and then punched a hole through the back of the chair and kept going.We did not repeatedly strike the same spot over and over. We shot each set two or three times, on different areas, so as to have fresh armor for each shot.
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  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Richard Davis of Second Chance used to demonstrate his product very personally. There is a film out there of this guy wearing level IV (hard plate) armor and taking an '06 AP round in the chest from about 10 ft. away. I'd say the answer to your question is yes, the correct body armor will stop an arrow.Soft armor, on the other hand, "catches" rounds in it's tightly woven mesh of high tensile strength fibers. Given sufficient velocity and kinetic energy, a pointed object can make a path between the fibers and just push them aside to penetrate. Exactly how pointy and at what weight/velocity would be determined by the weave of the fiber.Check this site for the capabilities of the different armor rating levels: http://www.nlectc.org/txtfiles/BodyArmorStd/NIJSTD010103.html
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    From above:j) for type I through type III-A armor, a warning in type at least 1.5 times the size of the rest of the type on the label (exclusive of the information required in "a" above) stating that the armor is not intended to protect the wearer from rifle fire and, if applicable, that the armor is not intended to protect the wearer from sharp edged or pointed instruments. (Note: Printing color changes are acceptable but cannot be substituted for the type size requirement herein.)
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