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M1 Garand question
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I can get a completely refurbed to new condition M-1G with a krieger GI contour barrel for 1,100.00.. Is that a good deal?
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I have one coming from CMP, I want to get something to carry some extra clips with me.
I have a Service Model HR coming! Cant wait!!
Watching battle footage shows guys laying down the lead clip after clip, in tropical heat without a break.
Just how many rounds can these guns eat and keep shooting? I would think the barrel throat would be GONE toasted to death by the heat of sustained rapid firing.
Did these guns get rebuilt after every battle?
Now that Ive changed my shorts could somebody please point me in the direction of the nearest Privy!
for the same reason that the M1 rifle never overheats: heat dispersion. Yes, the barrel will get hot, but it's thick steel, & designed to function without so much as cooking off a round. Machine guns DO need a user replaceable barrel, because they CAN get hot enough to ruin a barrel.
Throat erosion is caused by hot gases, but 100 rounds fired slow fire will have the same effect as 100 rounds fired rapid fire in a semi-auto. Actually, throat erosion has little effect on the accuracy of an M1 rifle. Even a rifle with TE>10 will usually still be accurate, although the barrel will be replaced the next time the rifle fails or is inspected.
Neal
My cars never overheat, even in the hot parts of summer
for the same reason that the M1 rifle never overheats: heat dispersion. Yes, the barrel will get hot, but it's thick steel, & designed to function without so much as cooking off a round. Machine guns DO need a user replaceable barrel, because they CAN get hot enough to ruin a barrel.
Fort Ord, Ca. 1959: I don't know the reason, but the M1 definitely did overheat, cooking off rounds. We had been in the field all day, and the rifles were dirty, with sand and oil in the works. This was at night and we'd been firing a lot of tracers. Abuse, I guess.
Ordnance Department tests show that really ambitious shooters could obtain a rate of fire if as much as 160 rounds per minute, which means firing twenty 8 round clips in 60 seconds. The rifle will continue to function but the issue is the rear handguard which will begin to char and then after about 250-300 rounds of rapid non stop shooting will catch fire. The rear guard is a fairly thin piece of wood which is in close contact with the barrel chamber so it is a limiting factor to rapid firing and one reason that the wooden guards on very early M14s were quickly replaced with ventilated synthetics. Destructive testing showed that a typical M1 barrel could be fired for 5000 rounds at 100 rounds per minute with one minute for cooling and still remain within spec.
I don't feel as bad now. I ran mine hot enough that both handguards started oozing old oil and cosmoline, but never got to the point of letting the smoke out of them.[:D][:0]
Ordnance Department tests show that really ambitious shooters could obtain a rate of fire if as much as 160 rounds per minute, which means firing twenty 8 round clips in 60 seconds. The rifle will continue to function but the issue is the rear handguard which will begin to char and then after about 250-300 rounds of rapid non stop shooting will catch fire. The rear guard is a fairly thin piece of wood which is in close contact with the barrel chamber so it is a limiting factor to rapid firing and one reason that the wooden guards on very early M14s were quickly replaced with ventilated synthetics. Destructive testing showed that a typical M1 barrel could be fired for 5000 rounds at 100 rounds per minute with one minute for cooling between strings and still remain within spec.
How many thumbs got cooked going at that speed. I can load quick but 160 rounds in one Minute 60 seconds.
That is incredible. What a rifle.
Fort Ord, Ca. 1959: I don't know the reason, but the M1 definitely did overheat, cooking off rounds. We had been in the field all day, and the rifles were dirty, with sand and oil in the works. This was at night and we'd been firing a lot of tracers. Abuse, I guess.
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Fort Ord summer 1958. Never saw that happen. The big problem was the poison Ivy (or was it poison oak?) We had quite a few who had really bad cases & they had to drop back to another company to make up lost time. I was immune to it so it was amusing to me.