yep, here's your arab definition of 'terrorism'

GreenLantern

read this on CNN this morning:______________________________"We have re-iterated that terrorism has no particular face or image and cannot be linked to any group of people, religion or culture," Malaysia's Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar, who chaired the conference, said on Wednesday. "The Israeli military action clearly demonstrates the practice of state terrorism," he added. "We urge the international community to assume its responsibility in putting an end to the Israeli military aggression and to call for the immediate and total withdrawal of all Israeli forces from the occupied territories." OIC delegates said they did not define Palestinian actions because they felt it was important to differentiate between the legitimate political struggle of Palestinians, which Muslim nations wholeheartedly support, and terror acts committed by Palestinian bombers. Albar insisted the organization succeeded in its mission of defining terrorism during the three-day meeting.

RancheroPaul

It appears to me, there is no way to impart any of our values to these people. It is now clear they "have their own ideas and views" which do not coincide in any way with ours.Time to accept the fact, "they really are different!" This narrows the options for those trying to change things.....so make the decision! If Ignorance is bliss, bomb their * off......they won't know the difference and the World will get better!

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badboybob

Hey Ranchero, you're right.

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will270win

Seems to me there ain't one damn arab country that wants anything to do with peace. Looks like they will just kkep going till they kill each other off. (good riddance)

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Patrick Odle

If suicide bombing is a direct path to allahwe should help them out by sticking a 1/2 stick of dynamite about about 18 " up their backside with treble hooks tied to it, load the worlds arab population on C-5 aircrafts, fly them to a remote section of desert. Fly off, and when at a safe altitude remotelysend them all to allah. Who knows with that much s$%%^ spread around the desert we might just create another rain forest to replace the one that is losing about a thousand acres a day.

gruntled

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. What realy is the difference between straping on a bomb & dropping one?You can piously claim "We didn't intend to kill civilians" but you know that in the end that's who does most of the dying. It's long past time to quit calling names & worryingabout who hates who more. Dead children are dead children, it doesn't matter whether they are Jewish or Arab.It is time for peace & we must stop bankrolling the conflict.

offeror

I'm no big fan of some of the individuals of the culture, but I will say that assuring the continuation of Israel as a nation is not the same thing as bankrolling a conflict. If we stop supporting Israel the Arabs would not hesitate to put the Jews into the Palestinians' shoes, and we'd have pre-1948 conditions. Frankly, it looks like the actions of the participants are going to sort this thing out while we watch. The only thing Bush is trying to bankroll today is Israeli and Palestinian restraint, an end of hostilities (on BOTH sides) and a peace agreement. Whether Powell will accomplish anything will be interesting to see. I have the feeling that if we were to look the other way for a while, Israel already has the military infrastructure and weaponry to kick butt all over the region, so our participation at this point is not the main issue. It's obvious that all parties have had plenty of state sponsorship for a long time. Frankly, watching the Israelis this past week has been something of a relief. It is now clear that the U.S. is just as responsible for restraining Israel in the past as anything else. And it is quickly becoming clear that Arafat has been two-faced, secretly importing money and weapons to fund these supposedly fringe, "uncontrollable" terrorist groups. At a minimum, he's been a liar. For all their protestations, the truckload of documents confiscated by the Israelis this week proves that. Offering to set up Palestinian families for life monetarily if one child will self-detonate -- that takes the cynical conspiracy to a whole new level. It also gives the lie to the supposedly pure and righteous motives of the suicide bombers. If it's about money, that's hardly a revolution taking place. The Palestinians surely can't afford to have the world know it's just well-paid hits going on over there.

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BoltactionMan

I will agree with one thing he said, though I am sure he and I have different contexts. There is no one face to terrorism. Israel is not immune, nor Arab countries, Hitler looked a lot like me. I think people killing others wholesale is terrorism. I don't give a damn what the cause is, we should be able to resolve any and all issues more intelligently.Oops, my soapbox collapsed, I must step down now.KC

gruntled

With the exception of some professional soldiers (Remember Lee's quote "It is good that war is so horrible, otherwise we would become too fond of it.") everyone wants peace.The problem is that has a different view of what that peace should be & what they are willing to accept for it.With our financial & political support we enable the Israelis to set a higher goal for peace than they would have to accept without that support. If we told them "Make a deal now, get the best you can & sign the paperor else you are on your own." there would be a settlement before the month was over.As long as we bankroll them & prevent any meaningful international actions they will never be willing to offer a deal that can be accepted. There MUST be some resolution to the issue of the Right of Return & all land(except the Wailing Wall) must be returned.The Saudi Plan has a way out. They suggest payment to those who surrender the Right of Return. I believe that if sufficient funds were offered that enough people could be bought out that the remainder would not pose a threat to the Jewish nature of the Israeli State. It would cost us far less to pay for this buyout that an endless continuation of the current situation will cost.The fact is that our war on terrorism is now dead in the water, we have squandered the support & sympathy we recieved from 9/11& it is possible that we may lose any support we still have. Think what it would mean if Pakistan stopped all co-operationor if we lost our allies in Afganistan.[This message has been edited by gruntled (edited 04-05-2002).]

gruntled

What are the pre-1948 conditions you are so afraid of? A country where anyone that was born there could be a citizen.