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Tears in my Eyes

njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
The Vietnam Memorial Traveling wall is in town this week .I went to see it today Fortunately everyone I knew who went to Nam all came back so I did not know any of the names .Still ,if you don't feel a catch in your throat and a little something in your eyes when seeing this there is something seriously wrong with you as an American. I did't serve as a medical condition prevented me from doing so but you sure have to admire those who did so .God bless them all and may they all one day find the peace they so richly deserve.
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    From this being so funny! (a bit graphic) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkz-NkbCivw
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Middlesex County, NJ is currently conducting a gun buy back program. Some of the guns being turned in make me wanna cry. The are paying 40.00 for long guns and 60.00 for handguns.

    Included in some of the guns being turned in was a WWII German Luger, a Broomhandle Mauser in excellent condition and several M1 Carbines. One man alone turned in 49 handguns.

    The Middlesex County Prosecutor's Office was quoted in the newspaper as saying that they are advising people with very rare and expensive guns to seek out a gun dealer instead of turning them in to the county. (YEA RIGHT!)

    Sure as he** wish the state would allow me to conduct my owna buy back program.

    -Charlie

    "It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
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  • BlueTicBlueTic Member Posts: 4,072
    edited November -1
    Why are they turning them in? I just don't understand this.....

    IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY RIGHTS - GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY (this includes politicians)
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    60.00 Dollars For Handguns?
    I'm suddenly interested in buying those 20.00 dollar Jennings, Ravens and Davis Guns.

    Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
    Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,353 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A buddy's dad turned in a dozen handguns a few years back. Included were a couple of Lugers, a P-38, an early Python and other quality pieces. He had read parts of the New England Journal of Medicine BS study about firearms in the home and concluded he, his son and his grandchildren would be better off if he turned the guns over to the police so they could be destroyed.

    His logic for not selling them to a collector was that if someone was killed with them, he would somehow be liable.

    That situation still makes me cringe.....
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,353 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    On the subject of cheap guns, there was a gunshop in the area that was selling junk, broken RG's, Ravens etc. in lots of 10 for 100.00 to anyone that wanted to use them in a buy back program....
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  • ysacresysacres Member Posts: 294 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    BRAIN DEAD !!!!!!

    A hot barrel, is a warm fuzzy feeling.
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  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Id go down and stand at the entrance to the building and offer the people 10 or 20 dollars more for their stupidity.

    Just goes to show you how truly stupid the American public has become. The irony is that the buy back money comes from our taxes.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Man, I was thinking the same thing. I'd be standing outside in the parking lot with a big handful of cash. They're probably gonna run a steamroller over those beauties.

    -- Life NRA Member
    If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,353 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There was a buy back in a large Town near where I live about 6-7 years ago. The local media made a big deal out of it and it was in the news for days. The final news story on TV was showing the Guns being picked up by a magnet and being dropped into some type of metal crusher.

    Foolish waste of fine firearms....
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  • BoyWonderBoyWonder Member Posts: 63 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I remember people setting up tables on private property (with permission from the owners) outside a gun buyback program in Texas a few years back offering the people more money. To the best of my knowledge they ended up having to go to court after the county conducting the buyback repeatedly tried to run them off.
    What dictionary did these people look up the word "infringe" in anyway? I think they got a bad definition.
    I remember reading that in Canada (which is apparently a foreign country) they asked people to turn in other weapons as well (they suggested baseball bats as an example).
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I doubt anyone who would bring a gun to a buy back would be interested in selling their guns to someoneoutside for a few dollars mote. I am sure most who "return" their guns think they are doing some public service.
    By the way- why do they call these things "buy backs". It is not as if the government owned the guns before, and are now "buying them back".

    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • muleymuley Member Posts: 1,583 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Another piece of irony is that, in Kalifornia, you would be breaking a bunch of laws just transporting your handguns to the buy back if you aren't careful. Unless, of course, they overlook that part of the legal crime. But, then again, they could dry gulch you before you got to the site and get the handguns for nothing.
    Salzo....it's called a buy back because, in reality, no one owns anything if the government wants it. Bitter, me? Maybe.......

    **I love the smell of Hoppes #9 in the morning**
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  • BoyWonderBoyWonder Member Posts: 63 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The same state government that makes laws to protect people from cons and scams is conning and scamming people, particularly the elderly or less fortunate, by stirring up their fears about weapons and then buying them back for much less than they are worth.
    Just like they say all lotteries are illegal (because they cause people to waste their money), then decide that a state lottery is obviously different because they have better things to spend the money on...legislating their own monopoly...
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Salzo&SaxonPig--The issue is somewhat Orwellian. Orwell said that those that control the language control the issue. If they call it a buy-back then they imply ownership--not literal ownership but ownership of your rights. Going and selling your gun to the gov't in this "buy-back" attempt is submitting to the goverment's ownership of those rights in thought and in act.

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
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  • k.stanonikk.stanonik Member Posts: 2,109 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Boy i wish i had that kind of money to throw away, spend hundreds of dollars on a gun to later sell it for 40 or 60 bucks to be destroyed. I'll give them 100 bucks apiece and give them a good home
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  • S&W ManS&W Man Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    And what is even more downright disgusting is that these buybacks are also ILLEGAL. These are mot private indivuals, they do not have FFL's, they do not check for illegal guns or illegal possesion of the guns, they transfer them to be destroyed without any records. Why they are breaking all the rules that you or I would be sent to jail for trying or accidentally breaking ONE. Downright criminal.

    The second admendment GUARANTEES the other nine and the Constitution!
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  • k.stanonikk.stanonik Member Posts: 2,109 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good point S&W, do they check these guns? for all they know they could be burning evidence from a homicide or robbery. That would make me pretty upset if that came to light, the evidence to convict someone who shot me was recovered in a buy back and melted down befor it was checked
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  • BoltactionManBoltactionMan Member Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The one we had in St. Louis some years back was advertised as "No questions asked". God knows how many POS murder weapons were bought "back" from some murdering thug who stole it in the first place.

    KC
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    Bolt Action Man. The phrased the "no questions asked on our quote (Buy Back) a few years ago. All I can say is there were idiots on both sided of the door.....Man how easy it is for emotions to get the best of some people. OTO

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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,353 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Event I talked about earlier was also a "No Questions Asked" event. If I remember correctly, it was reported that two of the firearms were found to stolen and were actually returned to their rightful owners....
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  • leadlead Member Posts: 2,311 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've always wondered how many guns get stolen, by kids or whoever, knowing there's easy money to be made, "and no questions asked."
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  • leadlead Member Posts: 2,311 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've always wondered how many guns get stolen, by kids or whoever, knowing there's easy money to be made, "and no questions asked."
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Idsman75...good point. Beach
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    2+2=4
    gun buy backs are not "buy backs".

    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Went to one in LA. Got two hockey tickets for a broken BB gun.
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Went to one in LA. Got two hockey tickets for a broken BB gun.
    Most of what they get is pure junk.
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