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korean m1's coming back.....

SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
edited January 2012 in General Discussion
in the past it was rumored they were all shot to hell, be interesting to see what we get

http://www.*/us-to-import-83000-m1-rifles-from-korea.html
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  • bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    770K carbines is good to hear since CMP is all but completely out of them.
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  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The carbines are not coming
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    99% of the Korean carbines I've seen were so badly used, abused, & mutilated that I would not own one. The Korean Army armorers ran out of replacement parts, & often made repairs that were unsafe; e.g., welding a broken bolt lug.

    I'd rather buy an M1 from CMP, which gauges & test fires every rifle, than take my chances on one used by the Korean Army.

    Neal
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  • countryfarmercountryfarmer Member Posts: 4,552
    edited November -1
    Glad the Garands are hopfully gonna make it back, I wish the carbines would too.[:(]
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  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060 ✭
    edited November -1
    The carbines have the dangerous feature of being able to accept a detachable magazine that holds over 10 rounds. We cannot flood the streets with that sort of thing - crime would skyrocket.
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  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    mark christian has previously stated that he has personally examined some of the korean m1s(at least i think thats what he said).

    he said that many of them were in such bad disrepair as to be nearly worthless.

    as he's a noted expert on the matters, im going to take that as gospel and not get excited about this until its proven wrong.
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  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    quote:mark christian has previously stated that he has personally examined some of the korean m1s(at least i think thats what he said).

    he said that many of them were in such bad disrepair as to be nearly worthless.

    as he's a noted expert on the matters, im going to take that as gospel and not get excited about this until its proven wrong.


    that's probably how i heard about it.
    so, why are we buying them??
    oh yeah,south korea needs money.......


    tom
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  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    SK can sell them to THEIR citizens! With the latest antics from NK, I'd say every SK needs a Garand AND a Carbine!
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  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431 ✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe I am mis-remembering but I thought the reason we were not going to buy them back was because we never got paid for them in the first place so why buy back our own stuff?
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  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kim Mi-sung, an official of the force and resources management office, explained that the U.S. rejected Seoul's proposal to export the 770,160 M1 Carbines because they "come with a magazine that can carry multiple rounds unlike the Garands."

    Thats funny, I didn't know the Garand was a single shot.
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  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    it's the magazine that's a no-no.
    enbloc clips are allowed......[:o)]
    stupid laws.......
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  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    Maybe I am mis-remembering but I thought the reason we were not going to buy them back was because we never got paid for them in the first place so why buy back our own stuff?


    the original reason they couldnt be reimported was that the ownership wasnt able to be established. nobody could find the records to see if we sold them to the koreans or loaned them.

    evidently, this issue has been solved although i havent heard how.
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  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    Maybe I am mis-remembering but I thought the reason we were not going to buy them back was because we never got paid for them in the first place so why buy back our own stuff?


    the original reason they couldnt be reimported was that the ownership wasnt able to be established. nobody could find the records to see if we sold them to the koreans or loaned them.

    evidently, this issue has been solved although i havent heard how.

    We loaned them, rightfully, they should have been returned to us, and been sold through the CMP, the Koreans want to sell them to us...
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
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  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by KEVD18
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    Maybe I am mis-remembering but I thought the reason we were not going to buy them back was because we never got paid for them in the first place so why buy back our own stuff?


    the original reason they couldnt be reimported was that the ownership wasnt able to be established. nobody could find the records to see if we sold them to the koreans or loaned them.

    evidently, this issue has been solved although i havent heard how.

    We loaned them, rightfully, they should have been returned to us, and been sold through the CMP, the Koreans want to sell them to us...
    Don


    Some we loaned. Some we sold to them outright.

    The one we sold are theirs to do with as they please. The ones we loaned them need to come back to us.

    The problem is that the records can't be located to separate them. At least, this was the story a few months ago. I dont know what has changed, but clearly something did.
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just got an E-Mail from the CMP that says they will not be getting any of them. If any come back to the U.S. they will be sold through regular commercial channels.
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Way back when the weapons were both sold and loaned, there were no computer records to be kept. Heck, there were hardly any computers, outside of research labs. That meant paper records filling up old filing cabinets. Over the years, cabinets got cleaned out and old records thrown away and have long ago turned into compost [:D]. Now, 60 years later, it turns out we could use those records to provide a list of which weapons were loaned (and should be returned free) and those that were sold (and can be resold to anyone). So, unless anyone can prove a ship load of rifles arriving in the U.S. were loaned, we have no way of enforcing their return. [:(] Maybe if we can get the Kenyan our of OUR White House, we could get the Carbine policy reversed too. Who knows. Maybe he will flip on that one too before the elections in hopes of currying favor among the gun owners.
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  • lee shermanlee sherman Member Posts: 405 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe a year and a half ago Big 5 was selling Korean M-1s alledgedly. All the ones I looked at needed stocks and barrels. They were asking big buck$ as well. What's the point?? CMP rifles would have kicked their * big time! [:(]
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  • TheBrassManTheBrassMan Member Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Okay this may sound stupid, but how do you get connected or involved to be able to purchase from the CMP?
    I have heard of it for years but never been told how to get involved.
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/eligibility.htm
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