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Went to a city gun buyback program today.

steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
I had never been to one before. It was no questions asked, no paperwork or ID. For each gun you turned in you received a $100.00 gift card for a local grocery store. I had a RG 22 that my father had bought at a yard sale for $20.00. The door opened at 10:00 AM they ran out of gift cards at 10:05. I arrived at 10:30 and was with about 15 people who were waiting for more cards. This buyback was located at a crime-ridden part of town. I started to look around at the people and the guns. Most of the people were like me, white between 50 and 60 (none of us lived in that neighborhood)with some sort of junk gun. There were many old junker revolvers. The best pistol I saw was a Kahr 9MM, the owner had received it from his nephew and he thought it was most likely stolen. One old war rifle was in terrible condition and had the barrel duct taped to the stock. A guy walked in with a backpack and button that said I LUV GUNS and started asking everyone what they had and if they wanted to sell their guns for cash. As I said, most of the guns were junk so after looking at them he talked to the cops running the buyback about what they had received so far. The cops said they had mostly junk but did have a mint condition Winchester 30-30. When the buyer asked if they would sell it they replied that all guns received would be crushed. [:(] About then someone turned in a muzzleloading, percussion, double barrel shotgun that looked very old and authentic. I wasn't allowed to handle it but the officer looking it over said it had a date of 1853 on it. If it was as nice inside the barrels as out I would have paid more than $100.00 for it. When I left after receiving my card I saw the gun buyer was at the end of the parking lot looking at peoples guns before they went inside. All in all an interesting morning.

Comments

  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    I'd sooner sell it on here for $10 than to give it at a gun buy back thing![:(][:(][:(][:(]
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
    I'd sooner sell it on here for $10 than to give it at a gun buy back thing![:(][:(][:(][:(]



    your missing the point of helping drain their resources for the pc "good deed"


    i believe the guns found out to be stolen should be returned to the rightful owners
  • B&G ClingerB&G Clinger Member Posts: 1,789 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've never been to one. It doesnt sound like a very effective way to get illegal guns off the streets if that is what it is designed to do. Sounds more like a way to dump a gun that might not otherwise be worth a hundred bucks. Or a way for someone to buy one in line for just over a hundred bucks.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
    I'd sooner sell it on here for $10 than to give it at a gun buy back thing![:(][:(][:(][:(]



    your missing the point of helping drain their resources for the pc "good deed"


    i believe the guns found out to be stolen should be returned to the rightful owners
    That would be fine if that is what was going to happen! But do you really believe that a stolen gun that gets turned in to one of those is ever going to see it's rightfull owner?

    I would be DAMNED surprised if it did!
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,483 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a couple RG's set aside for the next one in my area.
  • steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    *_r_done, I was taking the money of the "Arizonans For Gun Safety" feel good group. 1911a1fan The gun buyer that showed up asked if stolen guns would be returned to their owners. Thats when the police said "all of these guns will be crushed".
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Lorcin Just waiting for one of those buy Backs.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The smart departments collect all of that stuff and sell it here on GunBroker.com They get the items out of their community, make a little cash to supplement their budgets and some lucky buyers get a chance at some hidden treasures that they might ordinarily not have the chance at.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by steve45
    *_r_done, I was taking the money of the "Arizonans For Gun Safety" feel good group. 1911a1fan The gun buyer that showed up asked if stolen guns would be returned to their owners. Thats when the police said "all of these guns will be crushed".That is what I disagree with on these programs!

    If there is a posibility of the gun being stolen I would rather see a person carry it to a police officer to turn in on the streets and then it may have a possibility of getting to were it really belongs.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
    I'd sooner sell it on here for $10 than to give it at a gun buy back thing![:(][:(][:(][:(]



    your missing the point of helping drain their resources for the pc "good deed"


    i believe the guns found out to be stolen should be returned to the rightful owners
    That would be fine if that is what was going to happen! But do you really believe that a stolen gun that gets turned in to one of those is ever going to see it's rightfull owner?

    I would be DAMNED surprised if it did!



    read my statement again "i believe should be returned", that would mean they are not, and it is total bs
  • kiwibird1kiwibird1 Member Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like the guy with the backpack had the right idea. If someone is going to get rid of a gun thats worth more than a hundred offer $105 for it. I don't know if its ok where your at but I dont think it would be a problem here.
  • WoundedWolfWoundedWolf Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like the government is running a legal fencing operation. A thief breaks into a few houses, grabs a few guns, and gets a few hundred dollars for them from the cops, no questions asked.
  • KEVD18KEVD18 Member Posts: 15,037
    edited November -1
    im all for the idea of bankrupting these groups with crap, nonworking guns.

    however, if the money is coming from the citizens(directly or indirectly) i feel a little reluctant to fleece my common man.
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can't speak for other areas- here in VA, the VA State Police must be involved in any "buyback" SNs are run thru NCIC, if there is a hit, gun is returned to owner.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    The smart departments collect all of that stuff and sell it here on GunBroker.com They get the items out of their community, make a little cash to supplement their budgets and some lucky buyers get a chance at some hidden treasures that they might ordinarily not have the chance at.


    If you find out that is true, I bet it will not last long. Gun dealers will put a stop to it, just as they put a stop to retired law enforcement buying the guns they carried for twenty years.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • Colt SuperColt Super Member Posts: 31,007
    edited November -1
    Raven, Raven, mumble revolver.

    Doug
  • dcinffxvadcinffxva Member Posts: 2,830 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    The smart departments collect all of that stuff and sell it here on GunBroker.com They get the items out of their community, make a little cash to supplement their budgets and some lucky buyers get a chance at some hidden treasures that they might ordinarily not have the chance at.


    If you find out that is true, I bet it will not last long. Gun dealers will put a stop to it, just as they put a stop to retired law enforcement buying the guns they carried for twenty years.



    When/where did this happen ? It is still in Virginias code that if you have over 20 years in, and are retiring honorably, they must let you have your duty weapon for $1.00...oh, and they charge tax on it as well, so it comes out to $1.05.
  • dongizmodongizmo Member Posts: 14,477 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    The smart departments collect all of that stuff and sell it here on GunBroker.com They get the items out of their community, make a little cash to supplement their budgets and some lucky buyers get a chance at some hidden treasures that they might ordinarily not have the chance at.


    If you find out that is true, I bet it will not last long. Gun dealers will put a stop to it, just as they put a stop to retired law enforcement buying the guns they carried for twenty years.

    I doubt it was dealers, I used to meet several (dealers) at the PD auctions to pick up any deals. It is more like PC local goverments.
    Here is one city, they don't have anything up now, but I have seen them sell a couple pistols:
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SellerAuctions.asp?User=602202
    The city of Pontiac MI used to hold auctions open to FFL's only, I picked up a few money makers there[;)]
    Don
    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.
  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by WoundedWolf
    Sounds like the government is running a legal fencing operation. A thief breaks into a few houses, grabs a few guns, and gets a few hundred dollars for them from the cops, no questions asked.

    At least they got more guns off the street[:(][:(][:(]
  • team roper ozzyteam roper ozzy Member Posts: 411 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    city of flint mi just had one..i feel these events should be banned,,the a holes gave 50-75 bucks to a older man for a ww2 bring back luger,,the next time i hear of one of these scams going on i will run a counter ad in the flint local newspaper to beat these jerk offs on prices...btw the money came from Patsy Lou aka Fatsy Lou car dealer in flint..who's husband just happens to be the current mayor in deep crap with the city council over the city budget ...the only guns thy got back were collector grade from older residents..pisses me off big time[:(!]
  • spryorspryor Member Posts: 9,155
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 38chevyrodder
    I've never been to one. It doesnt sound like a very effective way to get illegal guns off the streets if that is what it is designed to do. Sounds more like a way to dump a gun that might not otherwise be worth a hundred bucks. Or a way for someone to buy one in line for just over a hundred bucks.


    ....or a way for some city employees/friends to get some fine weapons..cheap.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    quote:Originally posted by *_r_done
    I'd sooner sell it on here for $10 than to give it at a gun buy back thing![:(][:(][:(][:(]



    your missing the point of helping drain their resources for the pc "good deed"


    i believe the guns found out to be stolen should be returned to the rightful owners


    It won't "drain" anything.

    All it does is embolden the anti-constitution crowd with the fact that people flock to turn in guns.

    Facts and details otherwise mean nothing.

    What gets reported is that blank-city had a neighborhood gun buy-back program. 350 people turned in x number of guns which will be destroyed by chief snuffy with the blank-city PD.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Several years ago I turned in a couple of those do-it-yourself gun kit guns for a pair of hockey tickets each. One that I had messed up & each time I tried to fix it it got worse.
    The other one was a .45 cal cannon model. They put a picture of it in the paper with nothing to reference the size & anyone that didn't know better was left to think it was a full size cannon.
    They know they are getting junk & don't care, the whole purpose is a publicity stunt.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Will they take broken frames :)
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have never been to one of these.
    I'd be the guy with the backpack. [;)]
  • leftytwogunsleftytwoguns Member Posts: 785 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would love to be the fella offering $10 over what the competition is. But with my luck, they'd all be stolen and I'd be a felon.
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pure stupidity. The laws of economics say that nobody is going to take $100 for a gun, they know is worth more than $100.

    What that means is that in any gun buyback the city is:

    a. Paying $100 each for junk guns usually worth much less. (IE wasting tax payer money).

    b. Effectively defrauding a small number of naive and well-intending citizens who don't know what their property is actually worth.

    c. *NOT* taking truly dangerous guns off the streets because those are in the hands of criminals who aren't going to trade them in for $100 each.
  • huntergarrethuntergarret Member Posts: 702 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do they accept BB guns? [:p]
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    The smart departments collect all of that stuff and sell it here on GunBroker.com They get the items out of their community, make a little cash to supplement their budgets and some lucky buyers get a chance at some hidden treasures that they might ordinarily not have the chance at.


    If you find out that is true, I bet it will not last long. Gun dealers will put a stop to it, just as they put a stop to retired law enforcement buying the guns they carried for twenty years.

    I doubt it was dealers, I used to meet several (dealers) at the PD auctions to pick up any deals. It is more like PC local goverments.
    Here is one city, they don't have anything up now, but I have seen them sell a couple pistols:
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SellerAuctions.asp?User=602202
    The city of Pontiac MI used to hold auctions open to FFL's only, I picked up a few money makers there[;)]
    Don



    It was gun dealers. and it was in San Diego. Just about the time I retired they were switching over to Glocks, and they offered to let us buy our Model 66 for more than the department paid at $300. The Deputy Sheriff Assoc was goint of be the FFL transfer dealer and the gun dealers put a stop to it.

    Oh yeah, the gun dealers would let us buy a used 66 for $450, but there was no guarntee that we would get the gun that we had carried for 20 years.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by huntergarret
    Do they accept BB guns? [:p]


    Depends on who's running it. At the one in L.A. that I went to many years ago the guy ahead of me turned in a broken BB gun & got his two hockey tickets for it. It was all about numbers for the publicity & of course the hockey tickets were donated by the Kings so the police didn't care about the cost.
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