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The American people have spoken
No Amnesty..their position is clear
But since Congress is broken
They forge ahead with a deaf ear
What a strange alliance we see brewing in this political pot
Bush and the Democrats? Certainly not
Throw in McCain and Kennedy, an unlikely pair
The result is uncertain as the recipe is rare.
But keep faith in our leaders as they know best don't you see
They know the facts, unlike you and me
So put your back to the wall make sure its protected
Take a deep breath and exhale were about to be shafted.
News articles anymore.
I know the DHS was fully funded
for the rest of the fiscal year.
What happened to the immigration
bill? Was it blocked or did our newly
elected Republicans back off and let it
go thru?
http://cbs2.com/topstories/topstories_story_083135520.html
lets see, $400 a week he doesn't pay taxes on and sends to Mexico to bring in more of his family. Doind the job of drywalling while regular construction people sit out of work because they brought him in from out of town to do the labor.
Meanwhile I make less than $300 a week, having lost my job last eyar. when I took a class to get State certification in the security field the state cancelled my unemployment because the class conflicted with working hours in the security field. Security was the only thing I was able to find as nobody is really hiring around here for nything better. All the schools are failing as they have no funding so the economy will be shot faster.
it's not immigration..it's decriminalizing illegal and unauthorized entry .for limited political gain with bennies for politicians and costs assigned to the working taxpayers against their wishes
The gain is far from limited. In Presidential elections the Dems have the advantage with California and New York having around 90 electoral college votes between them and that's even before the first ballot is cast. Where do a lot of the illegals live? Texas, Arizona, New Mexico etc. Imagine what adding 4-5 million new democratic voters to those states will do. Legalize all of the illegals and you will not see another republican president.
I checked and California has 55, New York has 29. Normally the Democrat enters the race with an all but guarantee of 242 electoral votes out of 270 needed. Texas has 38.
The GOP Controlled House and Senate fully funded Obama's Executive Action granting de-facto amnesty to roughly half of the illegals in this country.
The GOP Controlled House and Senate fully funded the entire U.S. Government at a projected deficit of greater than $ 460 Billion.
The CBO projects that if we follow the current plan, the deficit will be greater than $ 1 Trillion come 2025.
Not seeing as how the Democrats are the problem.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/49892
Brad Steele
The United States Immigration Laws are simply useless words on paper.
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1. Stated a goal for how secure we want our border to be.
2. Stated a staffing level needed to reach that security level.
3. Provided funding to pay for it.
4. Tied continued funding of HSA into the above goal.
The RepubliStains will take no meaningful, practical steps. They are too interested in playing to the emotions of a core constituency while cooking up entertaining insults about DemonCraps.
It's all a big game for chasing votes come the next election.
And there us always a "next election" with these bastids.
The GOP Controlled House and Senate fully funded Obamacare for FY 2015.
The GOP Controlled House and Senate fully funded Obama's Executive Action granting de-facto amnesty to roughly half of the illegals in this country.
The GOP Controlled House and Senate fully funded the entire U.S. Government at a projected deficit of greater than $ 460 Billion.
The CBO projects that if we follow the current plan, the deficit will be greater than $ 1 Trillion come 2025.
Not seeing as how the Democrats are the problem.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/49892
Well, the majority of the recipients of the handouts are democrats, and one could argue that absent their needs wants and desires, these public programs wouldn't exist.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Another missed opportunity. Instead of fighting lost battles, they could have written a funding bill that:
1. Stated a goal for how secure we want our border to be.
2. Stated a staffing level needed to reach that security level.
3. Provided funding to pay for it.
4. Tied continued funding of HSA into the above goal.
The RepubliStains will take no meaningful, practical steps. They are too interested in playing to the emotions of a core constituency while cooking up entertaining insults about DemonCraps.
It's all a big game for chasing votes come the next election.
And there us always a "next election" with these bastids.
So long as the staffing level includes construction crews for a vermin proof wall / fence, we are in agreement.
Brad Steele
If I remember right Not one Republican voted for Obamacare
They seem to be plenty fond of it now, though.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
This means barriers are needed but are useless without sufficient personnel to leverage the advantage they provide. Rather than just something to leisurely cut through, climb over, tunnel under or go around.
My idea of a good idea is about 100,000 troops for five years minimum. Initially, heavy on the construction details. To build those physical barriers and patrol them at the same time. As they are built, the construction duty is reduced to constant maintenance, and troops to patrol become the greatest emphasis.
The goal is not what people would think. Stopping illegal aliens from crossing the border is only a positive side effect, secondary at best. The primary goal is Mexican Narco Cartel and general crime suppression. A massive increase in security has the effect of starving the cartels of cash.
Which would be a massive win for the USA. Seeing as how those cartels suck billions of dollars out of us, and prey upon our people for their captive customer base.
We cannot do any of the above. Largely because our side, starting with leadership, can't shut the hell up about illegals. They took the lesser side effect of the organized crime problem and turned it into a Golden Goose for the Open Borders advocates. Handed them an issue perfectly suited to blow back in conservative faces, obscuring the vastly larger problem that caused it in the first place.
There are too many sympathetic human interest stories coming out of the "Undocumented Migrant" side to win the fight on that basis. Continuing to play the same hand after so many years of losing is either evidence of madness, or just plain stubborn stupidity.
Work the far larger issue of organized crime based in Mexico and we'd have a shot at seeing a nice reward on secondary issues. Or just stick with those secondary issues, keep losing, keep griping about losing, and pretend it's all the liberals fault.
Brilliant!
If I remember right Not one Republican voted for Obamacare
They did, but it was years before when they first thought up the idea. Never got far enough though, once the Clinton Error flopped, Republistains lost steam on it.
Walls and fences are very useful tools and not a solution of themselves. In that you are correct. They have proven to be very effective when coupled with disciplined canister and machine gun fire as evidenced during Pickets Charge and much of WW1.
Brad Steele
The only way to solve the illegal immigration problem is to remove the incentives to come.
No birthright citizenship for their children.
No healthcare, even emergency care.
No welfare benefits.
Revamp the immigration system to encourage the best and brightest to come....not the dependent class.
Walls and fences are horribly expensive and can be defeated.
The only way to solve the illegal immigration problem is to remove the incentives to come.
No birthright citizenship for their children.
No healthcare, even emergency care.
No welfare benefits.
Revamp the immigration system to encourage the best and brightest to come....not the dependent class.
None of that will work, and it isn't the problem anyway.
Edit - Not that doing those things are bad, just that without the security increase you fix only secondary effects. Because the security needed is not about illegals, it's about the much larger crime issue between the two countries.