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The 1968 vietnam revolver street exectution

m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
edited May 2017 in General Discussion
I make no claim of the accuracy of this video after all it is youtube but fairly interesting to say the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UKYG9yfyTJ4

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  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That guy is my hero.

    He killed a terrorist who had just been caught killing the familys of Saigon Police officers.

    I wish we were allowed to do the same in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    BTW what he did was legal:

    According to Article 4 of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949, irregular forces are entitled to prisoner of war status provided that they are commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates, have a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance, carry arms openly, and conduct their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war. If they do not do meet all of these, they may be considered francs-tireurs (in the original sense of ?illegal combatant?) and punished as criminals in a military jurisdiction, which may include summary execution. The guy shot was an ?illegal combatant?, a francs-tireurs
    RLTW

  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    That guy is my hero.

    He killed a terrorist who had just been caught killing the familys of Saigon Police officers.

    I wish we were allowed to do the same in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    BTW what he did was legal:

    According to Article 4 of the Third Geneva Convention of 1949, irregular forces are entitled to prisoner of war status provided that they are commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates, have a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance, carry arms openly, and conduct their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war. If they do not do meet all of these, they may be considered francs-tireurs (in the original sense of ?illegal combatant?) and punished as criminals in a military jurisdiction, which may include summary execution. The guy shot was an ?illegal combatant?, a francs-tireurs



    Yes Sir.

    A fact that is most often not presented.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    liberal media twist, and we still learned nothing
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I liked that pic so much I bought a S&W Bodyguard like that.[8D]
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    Interesting turn of phrase, that Franch Terrorists or francs tireurs thing.
    Especially if it was a widely used phrase prior to 1949.....
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Vietnam in HD just showed this without any context...shocker...
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    Vietnam in HD just showed this without any context...shocker...


    I've seen that before.

    As usual, they do not put any context behind that video.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    Vietnam in HD just showed this without any context...shocker...


    I've seen that before.

    As usual, they do not put any context behind that video.





    Just like the medias portrayal that America's response to the Tet offensive was a loss, when it was in fact a resounding military victory. The Viet Cong were essentially decimated by the conclusion of Tet.
  • remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes good Lord says, "Judge not lest ye be judged". That is the reason why
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That's a pretty famous picture of South Vietnamese Gen. Nguyen Ngoc Loan, chief of the national police, that fired his pistol into the head of suspected Viet Cong officer Nguyen Van Lem, also known as Bay Lop, on a Saigon street, early in the Tet Offensive on Feb. 1, 1968.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    That's a pretty famous picture of South Vietnamese Gen. Nguyen Ngoc Loan, chief of the national police, that fired his pistol into the head of suspected Viet Cong officer Nguyen Van Lem, also known as Bay Lop, on a Saigon street, early in the Tet Offensive on Feb. 1, 1968.



    .....I was about 75 yds away when that happened.....[V]
  • TrinityScrimshawTrinityScrimshaw Member Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "He killed a terrorist who had just been caught killing the familys of Saigon Police officers."

    Not sure about that, but I do know he was caught by US Army MP's at the US Embassy during the TET attack, and turned over to the South Vietnamese General Nguyen Ngoc Loan, chief of the national police who then proceed to execute him.

    I worked with one of the MP's who captured him, at Ft Hood in the late 70's. His name was Master Sergeant Kuldas, and his picture was on the cover of Life Magazine escorting the prisoner along with another MP just prior to turning him over to the South Vietnamese.

    He had the cover of Life framed in his office, and he once told me that had they had known he was going to be executed they would never have turned him over.

    Trinity +++
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TrinityScrimshaw
    "He killed a terrorist who had just been caught killing the familys of Saigon Police officers."

    Not sure about that, but I do know he was caught by US Army MP's at the US Embassy during the TET attack, and turned over to the South Vietnamese General Nguyen Ngoc Loan, chief of the national police who then proceed to execute him.

    I worked with one of the MP's who captured him, at Ft Hood in the late 70's. His name was Master Sergeant Kuldas, and his picture was on the cover of Life Magazine escorting the prisoner along with another MP just prior to turning him over to the South Vietnamese.

    He had the cover of Life framed in his office, and he once told me that had they had known he was going to be executed they would never have turned him over.

    Trinity +++


    Here is a really good account of what happened. It doesn't say anything about US MP's though.

    https://cherrieswriter.wordpress.com/2015/08/03/the-story-behind-the-famous-saigon-execution-photo/
    RLTW

  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep, he was reportedly a spy for Charlie.
    What's next?
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