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Have you seen this killing in TX
Sam06
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Neighbors arguing over trash. Looks like fat white trash father and son come ready with a pistol and a cut down PGO Shotgun. Big loud mouth forgot to bring his gun but he brought his mouth and attitude.
Kind of like the commercial; you asked for it you got it............
The fat white trash guy with the pistol was the calmest one of the bunch. He warned the loud mouth many times. Loud mouth would be alive today if he wasn't showing off and had called the cops.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6191483/Father-son-caught-camera-gunning-killing-neighbor-row-trash.html
Dramatic footage of a fatal shooting of a man that stemmed from a heated argument with his father-and-son neighbors over where to dump a mattress has emerged.
A West Texas man was shot and killed on September 1 and a father and son have been arrested on murder charges over what a police chief calls a neighborhood dispute about trash.
Police responded to calls about shots fired around 10.15 a.m. and located the victim, 37-year-old Aaron Howard, who died at a hospital.
John Miller, 67, and 31-year-old Michael Miller were arrested on murder charges over the death of Howard.
Howard was shot dead as his brother and fiancee witnessed the horrific incident first-hand, according to the Star-Telegram.
So what do you think? Murder or Self Defense?
One thing is for sure neither one of them should have come out without a shirt.[;)]
Kind of like the commercial; you asked for it you got it............
The fat white trash guy with the pistol was the calmest one of the bunch. He warned the loud mouth many times. Loud mouth would be alive today if he wasn't showing off and had called the cops.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6191483/Father-son-caught-camera-gunning-killing-neighbor-row-trash.html
Dramatic footage of a fatal shooting of a man that stemmed from a heated argument with his father-and-son neighbors over where to dump a mattress has emerged.
A West Texas man was shot and killed on September 1 and a father and son have been arrested on murder charges over what a police chief calls a neighborhood dispute about trash.
Police responded to calls about shots fired around 10.15 a.m. and located the victim, 37-year-old Aaron Howard, who died at a hospital.
John Miller, 67, and 31-year-old Michael Miller were arrested on murder charges over the death of Howard.
Howard was shot dead as his brother and fiancee witnessed the horrific incident first-hand, according to the Star-Telegram.
So what do you think? Murder or Self Defense?
One thing is for sure neither one of them should have come out without a shirt.[;)]
RLTW
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In the story, it's said that the receiver of the Lead Chill Pills was handed a Bat from his Brother in Law. If he had it in his hand at the time, that may change things.
Neighbors arguing over trash. Looks like fat white trash father and son come ready with a pistol and a cut down PGO Shotgun. Big loud mouth forgot to bring his gun but he brought his mouth and attitude.
Kind of like the commercial; you asked for it you got it............
The fat white trash guy with the pistol was the calmest one of the bunch. He warned the loud mouth many times. Loud mouth would be alive today if he wasn't showing off and had called the cops.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6191483/Father-son-caught-camera-gunning-killing-neighbor-row-trash.html
Dramatic footage of a fatal shooting of a man that stemmed from a heated argument with his father-and-son neighbors over where to dump a mattress has emerged.
A West Texas man was shot and killed on September 1 and a father and son have been arrested on murder charges over what a police chief calls a neighborhood dispute about trash.
Police responded to calls about shots fired around 10.15 a.m. and located the victim, 37-year-old Aaron Howard, who died at a hospital.
John Miller, 67, and 31-year-old Michael Miller were arrested on murder charges over the death of Howard.
Howard was shot dead as his brother and fiancee witnessed the horrific incident first-hand, according to the Star-Telegram.
So what do you think? Murder or Self Defense?
One thing is for sure neither one of them should have come out without a shirt.[;)]
Yep. People like that don't usually live to a ripe old age.
I would bet a split second, if he lived that long he thought oh crap I should have kept my mouth shut
never piss off and threaten to kill a good boy holding a gun on you
I will wager they both will regret the shooting as the straps are being tightened up on there arms
I think the fat little shirtless guy should have backed away & called the cops. Standing his ground in this matter only escalated the situation, and too me it seemed like he wanted an excuse to shoot the dead guy...[V]
I think they should have put their guns down, and let the dead guy & the little tub of lard son with the shotgun duke it out...[;)]
It?s sad it resulted in someone gettin killed, but I think the murder charges are correct, which will probably be down graded to manslaughter, and time served. In six month the fat shirtless guy will be back on dumpster patrol.
His fat son maybe not so much. After all is said & down he will probably get abused so bad in jail that he will be using a bag to pi$$ in, and scooting around in a wheelchair ...[^]
Trinity +++
Hang both father and son.
Yup.
edit,,just watching the clip again,,right at the end its hard too see but the old man supposedly fired the handgun,,why did he fall off toward the left before the younger one fired the shotgun,,did the orange shirt guy swing or hit him with the ball bat before the younger one fired ??
I saw this too. I think the guy in the orange shirt took a swing with the baseball bat to the old man and that started the shooting. The old man either took a hit from the bat or the dude punched him. The shooters may get off the hook on this.
Good God!
I?m adding baseball bat to my list of things not to take to a gunfight.
If the orange shirt guy was advancing on the fat guy with a bat while saying ?I?m going to kill you?, he has a case for self defense. Texas juries are pretty good at figuring out if somebody ?needed killing?.
Based on what a I saw it's appropriate to let a jury decide. If the shirtless men were truly scared for their lives then they would have made an attempt to remove themselves from the situation. Plenty of time elapsed that would have allowed them to back away, had the guy in the orange shirt pursued then they'd have a better claim to self defense.
Why would they have to be "scared for their lives"?
If a sniper had to be "Scared for his life", the military would be worthless. They are enemy combatants and need to be planted.
Dead guy had a number of choices he could have made, and chose the final option.
Not enough information to make a call. Charge them and send it to trial.
I?m adding baseball bat to my list of things not to take to a gunfight.
If the orange shirt guy was advancing on the fat guy with a bat while saying ?I?m going to kill you?, he has a case for self defense. Texas juries are pretty good at figuring out if somebody ?needed killing?.
I agree.