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Harleeman1030

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NO I AIN"T TALKING TO YOU ROSIE lol

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Be quiet honey i know what i am doing ...
!!!!!KaBOOM!!!!!

Edited by - harleeman1030 on 08/17/2002 04:11:43

Edited by - harleeman1030 on 08/17/2002 04:23:23

Harleeman1030

That's all.

Rosie

WELL! Then I won't talk to you either! I'll show you! And I'll hold my breath untill I turn blue too.
Rosie the mature one

timberbeast

Ya ain't THAT mature, Rosie, so put up yer dukes and tell me how ta keep these dadgummed diesel engine clamps ta hold true position when the foundry won't spring for proper tombstones on the Mori horizontal. Spit? Habit? Luck? I's runnin' outta all of 'em!!!! An' I's gotta fix it, by hook or by crook!!!
The boss:
"You're the man, you can figure it out. I gotta go!!!!"

Dangit, Harlee, ya fergitted Finnish!!

WWllVet

Japanese....... Watakushi wa Anata ga suki desu

Vet

Rosie

You would have to splain that problem a little better Beast. Problem with chucking? Holding size with z or x axis? Finish? Remember. Seiki means precision. With the real old Mori's you can only expect to hold about .0005 providing they have been maintained.

timberbeast

It's brand new, Rosie, a horizontal machining center, has the new control with MAPPS, but we's just using conventional G and M code. It's a Cummins part and has "spring" to it. The first station is just located on four datum points which compress it a tad with hydraulic clamping. We do the first pass on the "ears" with a 1/2" endmill, then finish with a boring bar for the main I.D. Size and finish hold well, long as the insert is kept sharp on the boring head, which is a Graflex. Personally, I prefer Nikken, but the tooling ain't the problem. The true position will not hold, we're getting parts off center with variances up to .020, which, of course are visible, and need no CMM to confirm. We have .003 to play with. The company doesn't want to build a new fixture. I maintain that with the current fixturing, the only way to ensure quality parts would be to indicate each part and change work coordinates accordingly, and there goes productivity, let alone that I'm the only hourly guy who knows how to do that (or is allowed to). The only other way that I can think of is to make the datum clamps compress each part more tightly, cut "too small", and let the spring of the parts bring them to size after they are unclamped. Other than that...magic??? I think that my plant manager wants some kind of magic, and I'm all out of tricks. Got any for me?? Be aware that everything has been trammed numerous times, with only .0001 or less variance. It ain't the machine, Rosie, but it's on my shoulders.

Matt45

Oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............

*Matt slumps across his keyboard, head spinning, feeling nuaseous*

"Can't... understand....... Rosie/Beast...... techno-babble"

"Me go- find rock! ME like to find rock and bang rock against other rock!!!!!"



Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!!

timberbeast

Ha Ha Matt!!! I'm sure that you could talk about something that would make my own numb head spin!! just wait until Rosie gets to 'splainin how "wait codes" work on a two-turret Mori lathe! Ya better get them right, or the half-million dollar machine goes "BOOM!!!!", and yer lookin' fer another job! (as the turret goes into the chip cart in pieces).

Rosie

Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like the age old problem in machining, distortion, Over the years I have had to pull engineerings butt out of the fire with that very problem. If the company won't or can't re-engineer the clamping process you will be very limited in what you can do. Backing off the pressure is one option but that is usually followed by parts flying out of the machine which is then followed by backing off the feed rate which is then followed by the production super screaming bloody murder! I don't have a quick fix for you without seeing the problem first hand. I don't envy you. For the past thirty years I have had the last word in these matters. I will look at the problem and tell engineering what I want done and they do it. Sometimes what I tell them to do is just an experiment because I don't know for sure myself! Your saving grace is that you have a lot of room to move in. .003 is a lot. Good luck, Rosie

timberbeast

Thanks, Rosie, experimenting is all I have left to me, and I don't see it going anywhere with the current fixturing. Yep, I have a mile to play with, but I can't hold it. The engineers have placed this on me, and I can't find a road out of it. I can change the G54 and also mess with the feedrate and rpm, but it makes no difference in the true position variation. I have tried the indicating each part scenario, but it failed as well, now have to go back tomorrow and explain why the guy whom the Plant Manager calls "the man" can't do this. Do you really think this should be put on an hourly guy's head? I think that I should have stayed in the woods cutting trees!!!
GAHHHHH!!!!! I have to borrow the second-shift programmer's "button" to allow me to make any program changes, so if I fix it, it's on his record, but he's a good guy, so the PM will know. Thanks for trying, anyway. Maybe I'll mail you some scrap and you can really see what I mean. I'll give you all the credit!!!
Ever work with a company called Signi....?
That's where I am, now.
(investment casting)
Betcha have!

Matt45

Beast-mebbe so, mebbe so.

I reread the posts again and my feeble little mind has one question- and it's only because there's this little something in my mental makeup that drives me to see if I can't prove to the world I'm a total idiot and try to dicuss something I damn well know I don't have the first inkling about. But here it goes-

Is your all of your raw product on-spec, diamentionally?



Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!!

Rosie

Before you unchuck the part does it check ok? Yes I do think this should be put on an hourly guys head especially if I want to see what he can do and how he handles his self under pressure. The fact that they call you "the man" should tell you something. This is an insidious but effective way to help a boss make up his mind about a good man that he wants to do something with. Don't blow a chance like this by ranting and raving about it being someone else's job. Do you have access to a fax? Can you scale down and fax a print of the part without trouble with your company or your customer?