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Good Cop/Bad Cop?

mcneely77mcneely77 Member Posts: 411 ✭✭✭
edited April 2002 in General Discussion
You walk into a convenience store and immediately see a county deputy handing his service weapon (Sig 226) to a 8 year old. You look around quickly and see the looks of shock on all the other patrons (4 or 5)faces. Yes this happened to me. The deputy was a friend of mine, and the kid belonged to the cashier that was getting ready to go home. The kid asked if he could see the gun, as any 8 year old would, the deputy asked his mother, who said that he could. The deputy cleared the gun, showed the mother and then handed it to the eight year old. This is when I walked in. The kid thought it was so cool. It really made his day. My friend reinserted the magazine, racked one home and holstered. After the kid walked away, my friend said "Well I bet we get a phone call about that". I agreed.

What do you think?

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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good cop^

    PC=BS
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  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    ok with me, parent and( store owner? ) where there and said it was ok, LEO made his weapon safe, made the LEO and the weapon look really good in the kids eyes what could be wrong with that? but I'm sure there will be alot of folks that don't see it that way
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  • niklasalniklasal Member Posts: 776 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Personally, I don't see anything wrong with showing a kid a gun, but I definitely would have thought twice about where we were.

    It was smart to ask mom before he shows the kid, and he handled the firearm responsibly, but it was not smart to show him in a conveinience store AND in front of other people. One of them is bound to be ignorant and blow it way out of proportion.

    It's all about CYA



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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994 ✭
    edited November -1
    He should've invited the kid (with Mom's consent) to the range.

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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A few months ago a Philly cop went to a school and one of the students asked to see her gun. She obliged, taking the magazine out of the gun, but the idiot left a round in the chamber. When the gun was returned to the cop, she accidentally hit the trigger, and the gun went off. If I remember correctly, the bullet nicked a student.

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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't see anything wrong with it except maybe a little more discreet area like maybe behind the counter. The problem with today's kids are that they are bombarded with the negatives of gun ownership. A LEO showing a child the merits of a positive with a handgun can only help the cause in the long run.
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  • niklasalniklasal Member Posts: 776 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's amazing how ignorant kids and parents today are about firearms and safety.

    My neighbor down the street will not have one in the house, DESPITE the fact her home had been broken into twice before.

    My father refuses to touch one even if it is clearly empty, for fear it will go off.

    Even worse, I showed the missus' cousin my 10/22. He handed it to his wife (about 30 years old) and what's the first thing she does? She points it at my face and pulls the trigger.

    At least I knew enough about saftey to empty the chamber, or I wouldn't be typing right now.

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  • k.stanonikk.stanonik Member Posts: 2,109 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good action, wrong place, but at least the kid and parent will have a little respect for the officer and firearms, would like to hear about the replies from the patrons that the dept got afterwards though. Its a shame today that people ( some, not all) want to force their beliefs on everyone else and cause difficulties for those of us who enjoy our hobby or livlihood.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can I unload my gun in a Public place and show it? If I was walking in the store at the time the cop was holding the gun I would think there was a hold-up in progress and at the very least put my hand on my gun at which time the cop would probably shoot me thinking I was holding up the store. This was an irresponsible act on the cops part. With other people in the store it would be easy to think that if it was a hold up the cop might need help.

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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have to go along with the consenus here. Wrong place to do this. I would have invited the mom and kid to range. Then there would be no possibility of someone walking in on the incident and misunderstanding what was actually going on. Also the kid would get a chance to fire the sidearm and learn about gun safety. That would be more of a learning process that to just handle the gun.
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  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm sick of this kind of thinking. Why not right out in the open? What, it's not against the law. I hate when people treat firearms like a crack pipe or something dark and bad. Mom, Store owner, said it's ok, What anyone else thinks don't amount to s*%t!
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Oh, but what people think does matter! It matters a lot. We are talking about a uniformed public servant in a public place. The people pay his salary, and have a right to expect a certain level of decorum. If it LOOKS bad, it IS bad. I would never show my weapon to anyone in a store.

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  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What ever happened to "mind your own business". I could care less if the LEO showed his gun to a 8 year old. Better the LEO showing him a gun than say, another 8 year old.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    guns-n-painthorses;
    Would it be alright for me to do what the cop did?

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  • TeamblueTeamblue Member Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    g-n-p,

    I understand where you are coming from, but for every person like yourself who wouldn't care about it, there are 100 who would ring the phone off the wall at my department wanting to complain to a police supervisor about the "incident". That is just the way it is. As for me, I never "show" my sidearm to anyone just to "show" it. Ever.

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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Until we drastically revolutionize public opinion about firearms then this should not have occurred in such a public place. I see no problem with the act in and of itself. However, what people think DOES matter. "People" are the ones that vote. It only takes one reporter stopping in for a Slurpee to see this and turn an entire police department on its @$$. That's not just bad news for the PD. It's bad news for everyone that loves guns because they will use the story to demonize the act of intruducing our youth to the shooting sports--all with one ill-timed act.

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