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OK...now here's what I want you to build....

RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
edited July 2002 in General Discussion
Imagine having dinner with John Moses Browning, Bill Ruger, Sam Colt, Eugene Stoner, Mikal Kalishnakov (SP?), or any owner of a major firearm business....what would you suggest for an improvement or like to see built?.....
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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    I'm not falling for this one! I tell you my ideas and you go off and make a million bucks! Like my idea of a whistling bullet, or a stock with a built-in cup holder. I'm saving these for myself!!
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  • E.WilliamsE.Williams Member Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok Ill bite cause if you can do it ill buy one.I woud want them to put all their heads together and figure out a way to make a mini gun into a real mini gun like lets say a .357 evolver aas the startig platform.Do it and you will be a rich man.And definately joi the greats for your ingenuity.Far fetched but would be pretty cool

    Eric S. Williams
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    daddo, I can hear John Browning muttering to himself..."dang! why didn't I think of that cup holder idea for the Superposed?"....

    I'd like to see a firearm that would shoot water bursts with the same velocity and power industrial steel cutting water jet devices use.....you'd be able to shoot through 2" steel and reload at the kitchen sink.

    a recoil taming device that would make a .44mag shoot like a .22.....
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  • RosieRosie Member Posts: 14,525 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rembrandt
    Hate to burst your bubble but the water don't do the cutting. It just carries an abrasive at about 66000 psi that does the work. Water alone can be used to cut things like coal and rock Etc.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interesting. My father sells these "water cutters" and he never mentioned anything about an abrasive doing all the work. I'll have to ask him when I talk to him next. Okay, so you reload at the kitchen sink AND the sandbox.

    I think that all of these gentlemen would laugh in my face if I brought up any new ideas. It's hard to improve on the best. How about asking John Browning (before he dies) to leave a few notes for those that decide to clone his design (i.e. FEG) and instruct them that, should anyone copy that design, they are morally obligated to do so in a manner that the hammer does not bite the hand of the shooter!
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  • Warpig883Warpig883 Member Posts: 6,459
    edited November -1
    You named all these fine firearms INVENTORS and then you have Bill Rugers name in there???????

    He might be a good industrialist and marketer but a firearms visonary like the rest of them, I think not.


    cup holder on the Superposedgood one
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How about one of those vibrating massagers embedded in the butt-stock of one of those real mule-kickers so that your sore shoulder can be pampered before taking the next shot?
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A bolt action that works itself. Then I don't have to come up off of the stock, I just wait until I feel it load the next round,all the while,....staying on target.

    A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Warpig883;
    You need to read the book "The Ruger "P" Models" by Duncan Long.

    JustC;
    I beleive that's called an Autoloader.

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  • SXSMANSXSMAN Member Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    JustC,already been done.
    The Walther model 1,fires in bolt action mode,also is semi-auto.I've only seen one,but if I find another and the price is more right than the last one,I'll buy it.

    Have guns,will travel
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  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You know, JustC, you might have something there. So far, every self-loading firearm uses the power of the cartridge that just fired to work the mechanism. What if we provide a compact source of power like a rechargeable battery to work the bolt action automatically? The cartridge firing would just start the process, maybe through a thermal or IR sensor, but not provide the energy. Use a linear electromagnetic motor (like a solenoid) to work the bolt. You could even delay the action with a variable timer, to give the bullet time to exit before starting the bolt. And you could still work it manually if you wanted to. Hmmmm.....
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  • RosieRosie Member Posts: 14,525 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    75
    I didn't say the abrasive did all the work. I don't know much about the process my self. there may be other machines I don't know about. I have been doing research in different methods of cutting steel for the company I work for trying to find the most cost effective method of cutting a new product we have designed. I went to Detroit about three weeks ago and that was one of the methods I found.
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gordian, that's what I was imagining, a small but powerful motor which could eject and feed the next round without me releasing my grip on the rifle. If I can stay in the same place (cheek, trigger hand and finger, and forearm) I could be the fear of every beanfield on the east coast. You could be a far more dangerous person at long distance on multiple targets with a bolt gun that requires no release of your grip/stance. I proved that last night when I had to eject rounds from the Sendero on crop damage shoots. I couldn't get back on the next target fast enough and ended up wasting 2 rounds at some 300-350yd whitetails. Oh well, such is life. 2 came home with us anyway. Anyone for tenderloin on the grill?

    SXSMAN, I have never heard of that one, I will have to look that up tonight. Sounds interesting, what kind of $$$ are we talkin for one of those?

    A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.

    Edited by - JustC on 07/04/2002 12:54:42
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  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    I just want a 22-06 cartridge for them chupa cabras critters. That ain't askin' much, is it?


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  • dads-freeholddads-freehold Member Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    greetings, to gordian blade brlieve it or not the are people working on weapons systems somewhat like that. to justc try this method with your bolt action, fire lefty and work the bolt with your right. works for me for double tapps. respt submitted dads-freehold ps happy independance day

    rodney colson
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  • SXSMANSXSMAN Member Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    JustC,the Walter was a consignment,wanted $500,sold for close to that.I'd been a player at 350.Slick little rifle.Shot just like a bolt gun,but if you took the bolt foward but didn't "lock down" the bolt it would fire,eject and chamber a new round like a semi-auto.

    Have guns,will travel
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    dads-freehold, I'm not sure I could learn to shoot lefty at long range. I will try it for fun this weekend.

    SXSMAN, wonder why that one didn't take off. Does it shoot accurately?

    A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.
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  • quickslvr982quickslvr982 Member Posts: 158 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like a scope with range finder built in. Takes all the guessing out of the shot. More ethical and practical in my opinion. I know im gonna get * from an old timer saying to do it the old way. But hell its just an idea. Or maybey a rifle stock with a hand warmer in it for those extreme winter days.
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A pump action center fire rifle, tube fed or stock fed, in a short magnum design, that can shoot spire tip bullets, in a caliber larger than a .243, but no bigger than a .45 caliber diameter bullet, C.O.L. not limited by the magazine or action when seating the bullet to touch the lands, and here is the kicker, it must be able to shoot semi-auto by means of a gas system connect/disconnect lever. Now if these boys cant figure that out, no one can. I dont think its possible, thats why I'd give them this challenge.
    Personally, I'd settle for a nice lever action 454 Casull with a 10 rd. mag. capacity, 22 inch barrel, that can shoot any weight bullet that I might be able to get to fit into the case. Factory installed receiver peep sight, hooded front sight, Pachmayr recoil pad, wood stock, and oh yeah, it must be a take down, for portability.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not that I have much use for it personally but I would like to see a pump-action rifle chambered for a dangerous game cartrige (.375 H&H or better). Who knows? Maybe one exists. I just haven't seen one yet. Then again, there's lots I haven't seen.
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