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What Is Up With Homeland Security?

gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
I have not heard anything lately about this new agency or what may be actively going on. Our former PA governor, Mr. Ridge, seems to be more illusive than Bin Laden himself. I was under the impression that the Office of Homeland Security was going to be actively organizing and enlisting citizen volunteers to help deter/fight terorism similar to what was done in WWII with coast watchers, Civil Air Patrol, aircraft spotters, etc. Anybody know what is going on if anything?

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  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nothing is going on that the average citizen will be involved in.......Homeland Security will be the national police force.

    Scary.

    Merc



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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They're probably trying to find a way to turn a very bad idea into another inflated goobermint beurocracy.

    PC=BS
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Homeland security is going to depend upon the types of attacks we undergo, and I think they now realize the idea of men on towers with binoculars was a bit premature. The "alert levels" business is designed to keep as many good American eyeballs peeled for suspicious behavior as possible. Meanwhile, I think Ashcroft and the DOJ have just dealt the best blow for homeland security that I've seen in my lifetime. The fact that we are so early in Bush's term makes it all the more likely that this new interpretation of things will stick long enough to make some real differences, and I have no reason to believe at the moment that Bush won't be a two-term President, short of outright sabotage by radical liberal "dirty tricks." I suggest we all start writing our congressmen about getting the BATF off our backs. They are the next biggest stumbling block to homeland security I can think of.

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here's the White House Homeland Security Page:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/homeland/

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    If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • thesoundguy1thesoundguy1 Member Posts: 680
    edited November -1
    Looks like a bunch of smoke and mirrors to me.
  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't think much of a budget came along with the title of Homeland Security Director. Right now in the Michigan area we have the local Coast Guard representative telling us to be on the lookout on the lakes for things that "don't look right". Kind of a marginal call for security.....but if he doesn't have the dollars what else can he do? Beach
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,621 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A primary function of the Office of Homeland Security was to coordinate communications about terrorism among various branches of govt. Now we know that the FBI Minnesota branch had arrested Moussaoui weeks before 9-11. The Arizona FBI had reported suspicious activity among Arab students at flight schools. Another FBI office had a similar report. It sounds like if we could just get the FBI to talk to itself we would be ok, and maybe Mr. Ridge could go back to Penn. You know those govt. agencies are very jealous of their turf and I bet they will be very reluctant to share info with Ridge's new dept. I bet CIA and FBI view Ridge's agency as amateurs.

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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This new "alert level" system seems to be patterned after the DOD's "Threatcon" system. If this "alert level" system is anything like the DOD's we will never ever ever be at the lowest level of alert. They should just eliminate it completely.

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
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