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Another stupid AR15 question

bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
edited October 2001 in General Discussion
Can anyone tell me where to find info on what can/can't be done to a post ban AR. There are so many people spreading rumor of what is and isn't legal-just wondering if you can put a 4 position colapsing stock on a post ban AR.I thought this wasn't allowed, but I saw an auction for an AR that was postban originally with standard fixed stock, but had 4 position colapser added, and was wondering if I could get away with doing this to my own.[This message has been edited by bhale187 (edited 10-11-2001).]
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  • Trader DaveTrader Dave Member Posts: 791 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No, No and No.
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not unless your LEO/Government agency. Check the BATF website when in doubtLimit of not more than 2 for post ban (9-13-94) guns;1. Collapsable/Retractable stock2. Threaded Barrel3. Pistol grip that protrudes conspicously below stock.4. Detachable Mag5. Flash HiderAR-15 has Pistol Grip and Detachable Mag ... thats 2, thats the limit!
    GUN CONTROL: If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com [This message has been edited by kimberkid (edited 10-11-2001).]
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • metzmetz Member Posts: 121 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Then there is the school of thought that is legal till ya get caught. I pity the DA that tries to prosecute a stupid case re: a stock.Andy
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    They really prevented a lot of crime with that stupid "not more than 2" listI can envision this scenario at your local 7-11:"Abdul, give him the money! That gun has a threaded barrel and a collapsible stock!" Gimme a break!!!Mudge
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Yeah, the bayonet lug is a pretty deadly accessory. I for one would like to put a stop to all these drive-by bayonettings.
    She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • awoldawold Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I pity the fool that puts a telescoping stock on a post ban rifle. IMO, it's not worth the potential headache. The key word being 'potential'!
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  • bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    Thanks all.Kimber, I couldn't remember if it was 2 or 3 of the "assault weapon" criteria that would potentially get you in hot water.Thanks-Ben
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    Kimberkid, don't mean to offend, but the actual definition of assault rifle is:(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of - (i) a folding or telescopic stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a bayonet mount; (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and (v) a grenade launcher; the complete '94 ban regulations can be found on:mini14world.comit's a good sight to bookmark just to have the assault weapons ban handy.[This message has been edited by boeboe (edited 10-11-2001).]
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would the 37mm flare launcher accessory be considered a "grenade launcher" since you can get the parts to use your own "payload" and they could potentially be used as grenade launchers with that in mind?
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    The 37 mm flare launcher is okay. The 40 mm is not.The grenade launcher provision is about the funniest part of the ban. You would think that if a person had the grenades, that would be enough of a crime.Guess they had to do something to control all the grenade launch murders and drive by bayonetings.
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pretty sad state of affairs when even the cops can't find out what the law is.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are fixed stocks for AR15s looking exactly like the folders for sale.
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  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    boeboe,Thanks for the correction! When I made that list something didn't seem right but I couldn't put my finger on it.Where does the forward grip fit into the Banned list?(edit)In reading the Btaf regs I se where it is illegal to attach a forward grip to a Pistol shch as the HK SP-89, but nothing reguarding rifles/long guns.As some of you may know I recently purchased a Steyr USR, why is it illegal to use an (non-thumbhole) AUG stock? It would still be a USR ... not an AUG, it has no threaded barrel, no folding or telescopic stock, no bayonet mount, no flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor and no grenade launcher ... the pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon would be the only banned feature I can find about it.
    GUN CONTROL: If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!kimberkid@gunbroker.zzn.com [This message has been edited by kimberkid (edited 10-12-2001).]
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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  • TED GARTED GAR Member Posts: 389 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anything is legal in your home, you could have fully automatice m60 in your living room, but take it onto the porch, and you are a criminal.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I feel the need to give the pot one more good stir. I bought an 870 Express 12 gauge shotgun when I was 21. I then ordered a pistol-grip stock and a 10-round mag tube for it. The mag tube and stock arrived as ordered but it came with a letter from the BATF stating that I could install one or the other but not both simultaneously. I had the little dimples drilled out so that the mag tube could be installed but left it in the closet and installed the stock instead.
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