Marlin to stop porting 45-70's????

WyomingSwede

Just heard from one of our local gun dealers that Marlin is going to stop porting their 45-70's. He said that they didn't really give a reason...he thought liability reasons regarding the muzzle blast and hearing. What a crock...now are we required to take a set of earplugs in addition to trigger locks when we purchase a new rifle??? Next thing you know is that remington will program their fancy litttle electronic rifle so that you cant squeeze the trigger unless it detects ear gear. Anyone else heard anything on this???

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dakotashooter2

From what I have read and heard most people who have shot one of these have indicated they would like it better without the porting.

WyomingSwede

I happen to own one...a guide gun in 45-70. Yes it sounds like the crack of doom when it goes off. However the porting does help control recoil and allow you to get back on target quicker. My point is that I like the current version and I'm wondering how many shooters that this would make a difference to?

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WyomingSwede

v35

The idea of porting makes me nervous because the blast, reflecting up and to the rear and carrying particles of powder,lead and coppercould conceivably strike eyes. On pistolsthat are fired well below eye level,portingseems clearly dangerous to the shooter. Experience with revolver side blast and a pockmarked chronograph has made me leery of what comes out of a barrel besides the bullet.Additionally, it's not a good idea to have sharp corners on highly stressed parts because they act as stress multipliers up to several hundred percent of the applied stress. I would not be surprised to see cracks growing in the corners of Magnaport cutouts after a lot of shooting. I'd feel better about oval or circular cutouts.

instrumentofwar

haven't heard anything about the porting being stopped, but it makes a difference for me. follow up shots are deffinetly quicker on target. word of warning though, don't be shooting alongside at the range (within 10' at least), at the sacketts harbor gun club i touched off a load, and idsman was off to right. he caught a piece of burnt powder on the cheek, and said the muzzle flash looks like a flamethrower. (was that you jerm or did i catch al with that?)

bsebast

Personally, I would never own a ported gun. The blast, both to the shooter and the people nearby, doesn't offset the benefit of reduced recoil. I like the Guide Gun but would prefer it without porting.

offeror

I was just reading in G&A today about a Marlin, and about a Ruger with porting, but now can't recall if the Ruger was a .45-70 or .44 Magnum, or both. Sorry, probably a stupid comment.

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offeror

bse--Oddly, I have always found the volume and the pitch of the M1 .30 Carbine to be particularly hurtful to my ears. I put a bolt-on compensator on mine and am wondering how that will affect things, particularly since it's a folding stock. It's not a very good defense choice if you can't stand to shoot it without ear protection, eh?The point is well taken regarding porting on handguns -- handle with care -- I wouldn't want to hold one too close to the vest. Better straight-arm that ported model. S&W Performance is now making a compensated snubbie 629. Owch! Lose your hearing and powder-burn your chin, both at the same time? In terms of the vertical blast, I think it depends somewhat on the load and powder. I used to get a basketball of flame when I shot Nyclad from my un-ported Glock. I changed loads. I don't think Corbon flashes as bad as Nyclad did.

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bsebast

In my opinion, porting is a gimmick on anything less than a shoulder-fired anti-tank rifle. Hunters got along well for a long time without porting...and fired some pretty hefty calibers doing so. Recall the old 600 nitro express safari rifles. They weren't ported.And a 45-70? Ha! That cartridge has been fired for over 100 years in non-ported rifles. Why is it, all of a sudden, we can't handle the recoil? I am serious. I think gadgets like porting are nothing but gimmicks by gun manufacturers to try to sell more rifles.And one last comment: a deer can't tell the difference.

idsman75

Wow, "the other guy" seems to be taking all sorts of debris in the face and chest. It wasn't me. I think it was him. I was shooting at Sackett's with him once and he fired a 9mm shotshell point blank at a paper target. Some of the shot deflected and struck him in the bare chest. Then we were back at the range by his place and I fired that .22 revolver that "you-know-who" left behind. Things weren't lined up quite right and pieces of lead from a .22 LR cartrige shot out of the side of the gun and hit him in the bare chest again. Man he's taken some abuse from our shooting.