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What is the proceedure for sending firearms through the mail?

roshauroshau Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
I'll try it this way and see if I can receive replys
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Put it in a box and take it to the post office and pay postage on it. Oh yeah, better have FFL and be shipping to FFL as well.Try this and see if you can read replies.
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  • YankeeClipperYankeeClipper Member Posts: 669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here is how it happened to me. I was lead to beleave it was difficult to send a firearm through the PO. So I was letting UPS get away with there scam.I bought a pistol from a dealed in OK.The seller collected $20.00 in fees and took the piece to the FFL. The FFL holder was smarter than that. He filled out the one half page and sent it to me to my P.O.box for $6.75. Out here in the sticks we do not have RED LABLE service. But we pay for it.(through the nose)If you look into the operation of the UPS,they just arn't honest.Granted the US Goverment put it to them on the unoin pention issue:But 2 wrongs don't make a right.
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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    If you are buying a firearm from somebody else, let's say in another state, you have to have the firearm sent to an FFL of your choice. The person selling or sending the firearm does not need to be a licensed dealer. A person can sell a limited number of firearms a year without being considered a dealer. Handguns must be sent from FFL to FFL. Longguns can be sent to gunsmiths and then back to you without going through an FFL. Most gunsmiths already have FFL's, but you do not need one for the gunsmith to send your longgun back to you. I live in Alaska and have been using the Postal Service for decades to send firearms.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just keep one thing in mind when using the US Postal Service. If the sending dealer requires a signature at the receiving end, and the FFL dealer is not there when the mail arrives (which could be Mon-Sat), the postman will take the gun back to the station and will not automatically bring it back next business day. He may leave you a slip telling you it will be at the station tomorrow and asking you to a) come down to the station and get it and sign for it, or b) tell them when to attempt to deliver when you will be at your location to sign. This is happening to me right now, and although everyone is being very civil about it, it has delayed my gun purchase, as it first arrived at my FFL guy last Friday, but went back to the station and didn't show up in his mail Saturday.
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  • ref44ref44 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Somewhere I read that an individual can ship a longgun to another individual within the same state with no FFL involved...since there is no interstate commerce involved. Can anyone support or refute this?
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  • HerschelHerschel Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ref44, the answer to your question can be found in the Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide, a BATF publication. On page 136 paragraph (B9) "May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier? A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. (18 U.S.C 922(a)(2)(A and 922(e), 27 CFR 178.31)" end of quote You can take the citations, go to a law library and read it for yourself. This question comes up weekly and much misinformation is posted in response to a question such as yours.
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  • UnclePatUnclePat Member Posts: 77 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    roshau,you have receive some good info but mostly uninformed B.S. in this tread. For the definitive regs. check the BATF site at http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm There are times when you have to use an FFL, and times when it is not necessary.
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  • ref44ref44 Member Posts: 251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I trust Herschel's input was not part of the "uninformed B.S." since it is a direct quote.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wish the local FFLers were informed at least. But in my town they don't even agree among themselves on the rules, state or federal. And some insist they need to charge sales tax, some don't. And you know how "sure of themselves" some FFLers can be (Ah, the independent businessman). And since there may be two involved (one at each end), there will be times (trust me) when each one is sure the other is breaking the law. Hey, I'm just the buyer. These guys are supposed to be the experts. Trouble is, unlike eBay, they don't have a personal interest in the item itself, so if my gun languishes somewhere while the paperwork is straightened out, I'm afraid some won't mind very much, or go out of their way for me.I'd say, if an FFLer doesn't care enough about his "small" fee to learn the ins and outs of Gunbroker processing thoroughly and be will to give Customer Satisfaction, I wish they'd stay out of it altogether.But maybe I'm expecting too much too soon. This can be a great resource if everybody can just GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW -- thank you very much....
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  • adminadmin Member, Administrator Posts: 1,079 admin
    edited November -1
    We have in-depth information on shipping firearms legally on our Firearm Shipping Guide page.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm still giving this guy the friendly benefit of the doubt and hope to see my gun later today or tomorrow, but trust me....if he should let MY (bought & paid for) property sit "bogarting" at his post office and finally get sent back to Oregon, you will find out which FFLer it is that can't be bothered to run down to the P.O. and pick up MY gun, since he doesn't have any weekday business hours to sign for it on receipt.... while not mentioning any of this before the fact because he was under the misimpression that it is illegal to ship guns through the US Mail. But, like I said, who's getting ruffled? I'm still smiling.... today.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    RECEIVED MY GUN TONIGHT FROM THE LOCAL FFL, AND EVERYTHING IS NOW COOL. He claims the difference in mailing cost between USPS and FedEx can be as little as 30 cents, which would of course make it worthwhile getting overnight service, but shipping is seldom "actual" shipping in the auction biz. Anyway, I told this FFLer that Gunbroker actually recommends the USPostal Service on their shipping page as a better value, making it important for FFLers to have a clear policy on it. If you're not a stocking dealer and you never see your mailman, better let the buyers know. They may not want to wait the extra days for signed slips to wend their way back & forth between you and your branch station to get the gun delivered.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't mean to get off-track but this topic is destined to go the way of the legendary "Barrel Break-in" threads.
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