Green Beret Candidate Killed by LEO

Bullzeye

Ft. Bragg Soldier Killed on Exercise Sun Feb 24, 1:15 PM ET ROBBINS, N.C. (AP) - A Fort Bragg soldier taking part in an exercise off the base was killed and another was injured in a shooting after a sheriff's deputy stopped them on a rural road, authorities said.The soldiers were taking part in a role-playing exercise that is part of the Special Forces Qualification Course, according to a statement from the Moore County Sheriff's Department.The soldiers were carrying weapons, but they do not carry live ammunition during the exercise, Maj. Richard Patterson of the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School told The Fayetteville Observer. Patterson said he did not know if the soldiers were in uniform.The newspaper reported that the soldiers were in a vehicle that was stopped by Deputy Randall Butler on a rural road northwest of Robbins on Saturday afternoon. Robbins is about 25 miles from the Fort Bragg reservation.The sheriff's department would not comment on why Butler stopped the vehicle or why he drew his weapon. No charges had been filed Sunday. Butler was placed on administrative leave with pay.Sheriff Frank Johnson was out of town and couldn't be reached by telephone Sunday.The soldiers were in a vehicle driven by a civilian who was playing the role of a resident of a fictitious country, Patterson said. He wouldn't discuss further details of the incident because it was being investigated by the State Bureau of Investigation and the Army.The exercise, known as "Robin Sage," is the 19-day final exam of the Special Forces Qualification Course. It tests skills in survival, tactics and dealing with people, as well as judgment, decision-making and ethics.In previous Robin Sage sessions, law enforcement officials have helped the military by setting up road blocks. There was no immediate indication whether Butler was helping with Saturday's exercise.Patterson said the names of the dead and wounded soldiers wouldn't be released until their relatives were notified.The wounded soldier was listed in serious condition at FirstHealth Moore Regional Hospital in Pinehurst, according to the sheriff's department.

Bullzeye

Addendum:According to Dan Rather, this is how it went down.Two of the candidates tried to take away the cop's gun and knock him down, while the other guy went for the M-16 loaded with blank ammo they had in the back of the car.The cop got away, and shot two of them, one to death.

ADfree

Who gives a rats @$$ what Rather says? All he does is lie.

gunnut

I think im goin to be sick.

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groundhog devastation

Rather will turn it into another gun grab ploy-- Maybe we need to take guns away from the military!!?? I'll give mine up when they pry my cold dead fingers away from it!! They may try to take ours away but until the sorry * cops we have in this country are unarmed we should never give up!! NO I AM NOT ACCUSING ALL LEOs OF THIS!! DO NOT FILL UP THE THREAD WITH HATE MAIL GENERATED TOWARD GROUNDHOG!!

Bullzeye

How the hell did this thread get saddled with...

oldfriends

I agree with Bullseye.The soldier that was killed and the one in critical condition at the hospital were in some of the most demanding training available. Both were involved in and exercise that has been conducted for the last 40 years in support of this training. Civilians in a 7-8 county area have been involved to add realism all this time. Generation after generation has participated. It's a pissing contest right now as to who was at fault. The army says they notified the county, as they always have. The county says the army did not. Can't bash either side until we know for sure. (I have my own opinion, having been through this training.) An investigation is being conducted. We may never know the truth here. The one truth we know is that two soldiers were shot, one killed, near the end of an approximate two year training program.

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Bullzeye

Oldfriends:Finally! A post that has something to do with the topic!I didnt even express an opinion. I was just expressing disbelief that all of a sudden I get 3 posts in a row with some sort of strange paranoid rant somehow involving both guns and Dan Rather.

SUBMARINER

I heard the sherriff on the radio saying the county was not notified,and that the count officers had NEVER participated in the excercise b4

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Xracer

Here's the story from the local newspaper, The Fayetteville Observer: http://www.fayettevillenc.com/obj_stories/2002/feb/m27sage.shtml#previous"The Army has received help from local residents and governmental agencies for Robin Sage for years, and that support is crucial to the program's success, Kolb said. But Saturday's scenario did not anticipate the involvement of local law enforcement, he said. ``Because of that, we would not have notified any of the agencies involved that this was taking place,'' Kolb said." What incredible stupidity! [This message has been edited by Xracer (edited 02-27-2002).][This message has been edited by Xracer (edited 02-27-2002).]