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"Hatchet Man" (not "AxeMen")

Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
My agency hired an accountant (read: hatchet man) to the tune of $50 grand/year to cut the fat from the company. Yes, the logic of this escapes me, too.

Anyhow, after all our fringies have been cut, bottom-feeders that we are, and we are still getting .21/mile for our milage (requests for an increase are dismissed, as the agency had 5 vehicles. 150 emloyees, 5 vehicles, you do the math), "hatchet man" informs my department that we will be now held to a strict 85% productivity standard. Not a big deal, except for the fact that our travel time will no longer be considered "productive time." We live in a very rural community, at least 30 min. between most points, sometimes up to an hour, hour and a half. Now, the agency does get paid for our time, regardless of whether it is travel or not, however, we do not get credit for it toward our productivity.
I'm trying to figure out how this is legal. They are getting paid for our time, travel or not, yet it will be held against us as non-productive time.
I feel we are getting screwed. Any insights?

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  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You think you have it bad, DWS has been locked out! Don
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dcon12
    You think you have it bad, DWS has been locked out! Don


    Say it ain't so, Don....
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    Guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue....
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I feel we are getting screwed. Any insights?



    sorry no help here, but it does remind me of an episode of wkrp, the old lady hired a guy like that, and everyone got out of character, his report was so far off because of their charades, possibly the best episode ever
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    quote:I feel we are getting screwed. Any insights?



    sorry no help here, but it does remind me of an episode of wkrp, the old lady hired a guy like that, and everyone got out of character, his report was so far off because of their charades, possibly the best episode ever



    Not at all off point.
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    you are all being screwed big time!
    there is no way in freezing hell i would put up with that!
    ...but about the only thing you can all do is stand together and demand change...as a group! individualy you wont get a hearing...hold a group meeting with your boss and tell him/her you want change or you will all "consider your options"
    there are very few buisnesses that could survive if all of its employees jacked up, but if only one or two of you try to get the system changed you will be out of a job!
  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 32,040 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
    you are all being screwed big time!
    there is no way in freezing hell i would put up with that!
    ...but about the only thing you can all do is stand together and demand change...as a group! individualy you wont get a hearing...hold a group meeting with your boss and tell him/her you want change or you will all "consider your options"
    there are very few buisnesses that could survive if all of its employees jacked up, but if only one or two of you try to get the system changed you will be out of a job!


    Hell man! This is America, there is not safety in numbers, just a bigger target! Don
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by rcrxs old lady
    I feel we are getting screwed. Any insights?
    you're getting screwed.
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by rcrxs old lady
    I feel we are getting screwed. Any insights?
    you're getting screwed.



    Gee, thanks...Perhaps I should have said, ANYONE WITH ANY SUGGESTIONS...[:)]
  • tomahawktomahawk Member Posts: 11,826
    edited November -1
    everyone quit at once[:D][:D][:D]
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    thats about it tomahawk..everyone turn up for work when they know it is going to be busy...tell the bosses what you want, when they say no...just all say."we quit, see ya later"..and go home...i reckon 30 minutes and the phones will start to ring [:)]
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    Dynamics of the office are not condusive to any sort of cohesive union. Us 35-40-plussers know what is going on. Been in the workforce long enough to know the score. 20-30-ers see it as an opportunity to screw everyone else, not realizing they will be discarded as soon as they are used, as well as worse off in the long run. Supervisor is a complete incompetent, she knows nothing and she knows it, so she is in abject fear of said hatchet man, spends 80% of her time playing the CYA game.
  • tomahawktomahawk Member Posts: 11,826
    edited November -1
    yep, ive seen this before, the fat cats at the top want to continue making more and the workers are squeezed. best way to handle that ,and it takes everyone, is to say, we know how you can save alot of money. everyone then gets up and walks out[:D]
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    One of Mike's employees (OTR trucker) suggested to me that I start keeping a log of my travel time/milage, and if it is being held against me, in regards to my productivity, bring it to the Labor Board.
  • tomahawktomahawk Member Posts: 11,826
    edited November -1
    .21 cents a mile is what gas cost figuring 20 mpg. they are paying nothing for the wear and tear of your vehicle. you can stay home and be broke. start looking for other employment[V]
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dan kelly
    thats about it tomahawk..everyone turn up for work when they know it is going to be busy...tell the bosses what you want, when they say no...just all say."we quit, see ya later"..and go home...i reckon 30 minutes and the phones will start to ring [:)]
    The problem with that is ... everyone wont stick together.
    I've seen it happen ... the first time was back in high school when people wern't risking their job, a few would give ... then a few would be made example of and the rest would cave ... and it was over.
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    if you ever saw the wkrp episode or know the cast, the guy got fired because he reported back things like venus was dealing drugs{great scene he pulled a knife on johny fever in the hall, timed so the guy would see it} lonnie anderson played a totally stupid ho, bailey was on drugs etc.

    who knows it may work
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,499 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Many years ago I worked for an agency that implemented a similar
    standard. Like you I was working in a very rural area, the office was about 25 minutes from the area I was assigned.

    I kept a record of my travel time as I had to report to the main office everyday before heading to the towns where I was assigned.

    We had to keep a log of our time and billable hours. The first time they called me in because I did not have enough hours, I showed them the log and they backed off. We were getting .21 cents per mile, but I hate to tell you that was 27 years ago.

    The guys in my office complain now abut 50.5 cent per mile.


    To tell the truth, I left that agency because of the nearly impossible standards. For the last 25 + years they have had a parade of employees in and out. My advice, start looking for a better spot if you can.
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