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Judge: Ohio Ban on Concealed Weapons Unconstitutional

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
Judge: Ohio Ban on Concealed Weapons UnconstitutionalThursday, January 10, 2002 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,42654,00.html CINCINNATI - A fitness trainer, hairdresser and pizza shop owner are all breathing easier after a judge in Ohio ruled they have a right to carry concealed weapons to protect themselves."There is no doubt that the very thought a potential victim might possess a firearm deters that element of our society that cares nothing about laws or human life but rather understands only one thing - brute force," Hamilton County Judge Robert Ruehlman wrote.The common pleas judge ruled that Ohio's law against carrying concealed weapons violates the state constitution.The lawsuit was filed in July 2000 by a private investigator and four other workers who said their jobs required them to carry weapons for self-defense. The workers say the Ohio Constitution allows citizens to bear arms and doesn't say the weapons cannot be concealed.But Ohio allows only law enforcement officials or officers of the state and federal government to carry concealed weapons. The workers argued that the ban subjects people to arrest before they get a chance in court to clear themselves by arguing they had legitimate self-defense reasons to be armed. Lawyers for Cincinnati, Hamilton County and the state countered that the right to bear arms does not prevent the state from regulating how people may carry guns. They said concealed weapons pose a threat to police officers and others. "Amidst all of the baying from gun opponents is the irrefutable fact that there will always be people in our society who refuse to follow any rules and how can never been reasoned with or rehabilitated," Ruehlman wrote. "These people have no conscience and no qualms about doing harm to innocent persons. As a consequence, every law-abiding citizen of this state has the right to protect him or herself with a concealed firearm." Ruehlman defined law-abiding people as those not otherwise prohibited by federal, state or local law from possessing firearms. Ruehlman heard testimony over four days in December. After the trial, lawyers defending the state law asked the judge to remove himself from the case. They said he couldn't make a fair ruling because his wife and baby were kidnapped at gunpoint outside a strip-mall camera shop in 1989. Ruehlman's wife, Tia, said a gun probably wouldn't have helped her overcome her assailant. She said she believes that residents should be able to carry concealed weapons but had not discussed the case with her husband. Ruehlman declined to comment on the request. Anti-gun groups said they were worried about the concealed weapons case because of Ruehlman's past rulings. Those include his dismissal of Cincinnati's lawsuit against gun manufacturers two years ago.The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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  • thebutcherthebutcher Member Posts: 374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Another victory! VPC must be soiling themselves.
    The definition of an "expert":An "X" is an unknown quantity and a "spurt" is a drip under pressure.
  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One round for the good guys, but you can bet that the anti gun socialists will appeal.
  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is very good news, indeed. I'm originally from Cincinnati, so my entire family lives under that Socialist regime. You wouldn't think it, since Cincinnati is pretty much a part of "The South" as far as southern Ohio culture goes, but the place is a breeding ground for Socialism and the "Uncle Sam owes me" mindset. Did you know that mere ownership of a pre-ban, high capacity magazine is illegal in Ohio? The place is just as bad as New Jersey or California!Damn shame. Good thing my folks are moving back here to good 'ole WA state this summer. Trouble is, the way things are going in WA, we'll be moving to Idaho or Montana soon. Damn Communist pigs.
  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    I say we all pack up and move to Vermont. From what I hear, the laws there are pretty attractive. I hear the weather is nice too.
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    According to a free pamphlet I got on US firearms laws:VERMONT- Vermont respects your right to posess and carry a hangun without a license.Dont know how old the pamphlet is, but thats honest to christ what it says. And Vermont is but a stones throw away from me in Upstate NY.
  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye, before you go moving to Vermont, let me give you a piece of fatherly advice: The women in Vermont are the ugliest in the 50 states, bar none. Why do you think it was the first state to legalize lesbian "marriage"?
  • gad38gad38 Member Posts: 179
    edited November -1
    I would like to shake this Judge's hand!!!!!!!!God bless him.............Greg
  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Saxon:One of us should check into it for debate's sake, but I'm just about positive that it's an Ohio thing. Before my last trip out there, I brushed up on Ohio state's gun laws so that I wouldn't get myself into trouble. That's where I found the info on the felony possession of otherwise legal pre-ban high-caps. I'd be interested to know if it's only a city/county thing or if it really is statewide.I'll check into it when I have time.
  • UNIVERSITY50UNIVERSITY50 Member Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    it did not last long! a dist. appeals judge just put a stay on the judge's order until 01-22-02 when they have a appeals hearing! they just don't give up, do they???
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    Gordian:That's probably why they encourage the men to carry handguns
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