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They shaved his head..LOL

alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Probably to control the lice; they are cannibals, ya know.[This message has been edited by Iconoclast (edited 01-24-2002).]
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  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    a bit from the story of the scumbag * mentioned above"John loves America. We love America," Lindh said after the hearing. He said his son was innocent of the charges. "It's been two years since I last saw my son. It was wonderful to see him this morning. My love for him is unconditional and absolute," Walker's mother said. "I am grateful that he has been brought home to his family, me, his home and his country."This is what his mom told the reporters. I think they should lock her up for a while too. they had snipers on the roof, and police all over the place, just to protect this piece of *. I say, hell, let him loose. Lets see how long he lasts.
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  • daddodaddo Member Posts: 3,408
    edited November -1
    It's a legal ploy to make him look like not such a bad boy!
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I heard on FOX last night that when Jihad Johnny was still a kid his dad left the family to go live with another man.AHHHHHHHHH Kalifornia.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    pikeal1:Apparently you never had a mother. I'm sorry for you.Clouder..
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  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    clouder, I respect your opinion, but such an assumption is uncalled for. I have one, and she is alive and well. As I mentioned above, I don't have kids, but I feel that if I did, well...fact is, I wouldn't let it get that far. I can understand unconditional love, but to go so far as say he is innocent, is a bit much. My brother had a problem with drugs, and I fought tooth and nail for my parents to lock him up for a while...which eventually happened, and is exactly what he needed. They pleaded with me to not do anything to go against their wishes, I respected that, and kept my beak shut. It is not as extreme as this situation, but somewhat similar.I don't expect an apology, and chances are you are older and wiser and don't need a 25 year old punk bitching at you, but I just think that comment was uncalled for.just a side note, would you feel the same way if you knew that he had killed one of your friends who had gone over to defend Old Glory?
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  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    As mentioned in another thread, someone used a collective term to encompass the population of this board. I, on the other hand, speak only for my self and can totally accept the fact that not everyone will agree. thats your right, thats why we live in this country, and fight so damn hard to defend it.I just didn't appreciate clouder's reply. On the upside, that was my first "confrontation" with someone from this board. and who better than with clouder. sort of like a right of passage.
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    pikeal1:"I think they should lock her up for a while too.", is the part I objected to. She has no choice in the matter. The heart has its reasons that reason knows nothing of. He deserves to die for treason if what we hear is what he did. If it's true, I would personally volunteer for the man's firing squad. And you're wrong, most young people have a lot to teach me. We are never too old to learn and I welcome reasoned discussion. What you said was not reasonable because you have no basis for it. I hope one day you have a son or daughter you can be proud of, the pleasure in that is matched for extremes only by having one in bad trouble or very ill. Clouder..
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  • pops401pops401 Member Posts: 616 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was already to jump in here with both feet, guns a-blazin. But you know what? this piece of scum doesen't derserve us bit@hen at each other even in fun. Hitler had a mother. I say drop it, (and him from a short rope)Hey, read any good books?
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  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    One more pops, and I'm done. Clouder, your right, that part was uncalled for. My mom used to make up all kinds of excuses for my brother, and it really pissed me off, but I dont have any kids yet, and don't know what it would be like to be in their position. If you do get to be on his firing squad, let us know...I for one, would be happy to contribute towards a shinny new cannon to do the job.Ok, about them books...
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    Pikeal1:I agree with you completely.The idea of unconditional love is pure liberal garbage. I love my mother very much, but if she murdered my father or myself or blew up a Federal building or something, I doubt I'd love her anymore.Any mother who says she still loves and supports a son as rotten and vicious as Johnny is not being forgiving.She is being delusional. Or else she's sympathetic to traitors.[This message has been edited by Bullzeye (edited 01-24-2002).]
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Whoever cut his hair and beard could have saved us all from the circus that is about to take place in VA. Ya know, oops with a straight razor, Happens in NJ all the time, lol.-Charlie
    It's the stuff dreams are made of AngelNRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well fellas (pik and Bullzeye), I have to disagree. I am a new father and I'm not sure a person has the ability to "turn off" their love for their kids. I can say that while I would be VERY disappointed, I don't think I could stop loving my daughter no matter what she did. Seriously, I know it sounds crazy (especially if you don't have kids) but that's how I feel.And, anyway, John's mother may not believe all that she may have read. She may still be clinging to the hope that he was just "mixed up" with those jokers in Afghanistan. We know that isn't true, but she may be kidding herself.
    Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
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  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye,'Unconditional love' does exist. Though I would be heart broken to see someone in my family choose the wrong path, this doesn't mean I wouldn't love them anymore. To love them doesn't mean you condone their actions... it means you hope for the best, and are willing to do whatever you can to help them back on the path to right. `Love believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all thing."Monkey[This message has been edited by thesupermonkey (edited 01-24-2002).][This message has been edited by thesupermonkey (edited 01-24-2002).]
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bullzeye:Ah, you're the one without a mom. Still, sad.And on second thought, stay away from the puppies. I'll go find you something dead to play with.Clouder..
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,342 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No offense Pik and Bullzeye, but you will never completely understand the dynamics involved until you are a parent. This is not intended as a put down, the fact is your life experiences have not yet included parenthood. When one of my sons has a problem, my first reaction is to step in and fix it. Logic usually takes over and within reason I allow the situation to reach it's natural conclusion. This way my sons are allowed to learn life's difficult lessons.
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  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kiddies,Until you've been there it's just a guess on your part. It is possible to love your kids unconditionaly and still not like them at times.
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  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    I understand all your positions, you are all right about unconditional love, and I know that it does exist. As I mentioned above, my parents kept telling me not to do anything agains my brother, and I respected that. Even the love between brothers is different than the love between a mother and a child, or a father and a child, and I can see where my error was in my first post in this thread. The only thing I don't agree with, is to go so far as to say that he is innocent, but as was mentioned, maybe she is trying to make herself believe that.congrats G36 onr your new child, and I hope he/she brings you many years of joy, and makes you a proud man.
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I agree. "Unconditional love" certainly exists between parents and children. I would try to help my son no matter what he'd done. The problem with little Johnny's situation is that, in my opinion, his parents are largely responsible for his predicament. From what I've read he was never told "NO" about anything. The remark made by his dad (or mom, I can't remember which) after his capture speaks volumes. "...I'd like to give him a hug and maybe a little kick in the butt...""Maybe a little kick in the butt" for the trouble he's got himself into? Shows me that his parents are just as balled-up in the head as sonny boy.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shouldn't we say that while it is appropriate for a mother to always love her child, it is not appropriate for her to always take the child's side and try to shield the child from deserved punishments?For example, at a local school the student council president was caught cheating. Caught redhanded. He got a zero on the test and the student council advisor took away his position. The boy's father came in and fought to get the teacher to let him retake the test (that didn't work) and to get his presidency back (that did work). Was the parent correct? Should the parent have fought for every right and advantage the kid could get? Or should the parent have told the son that he loved him even though he was wrong, but he was going to have to take his lumps?I'm with the second option, but I don't think everybody else here is.
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  • pops401pops401 Member Posts: 616 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What njretcop said, only a small nick, and a slow bleed.Still say he has no right in this country. He should be in Gitmo with the rest of his scum suckin buddies.(damn, I said I wasn't going to do this)
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you need to see how a parent feels about their kids when they do something stupid, Just pick up one of the many books on Tim Mcveigh and read what his parents have to say. I have more respect for them then I ever will for johnny's mom.
    when all else fails........................
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    Fine, perhaps I am cold.But I'll tell you this much: In order to decide whether you still love someone after they've done something terrible, you've got to first define love.What is love? Is it totally internal, or do you have to make some sort of external display of it?
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