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Gun Safes - probably a dumb question

sundownersundowner Member Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 2003 in General Discussion
I was out looking at gun safes today. Looked at Browning, Red Head, Pony Express, and Liberty. I really like the Liberty safes. Fit and finish seemed really first rate. The one that I can afford only has bolts on one side of the door. Is this a really bad thing?
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    No its not, if they can get into the door with just the side bolts, they can get into the door with the top and bottom bolts, it just takes longer with the extra bolts.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • Rafter-SRafter-S Member Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    sundowner--

    There is no such thing as a burglur-proof safe. Someone determined, with enough time and equipment, can crack the best of them. Generally speaking, the type of people who break in to yours and my house are not equipped to crack a safe...and time is their enemy. They have to grab things and get out of there fast. So virtually any safe on the market will protect from your average thief.

    My humble opinion,
    Rafter-S
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Add a nice loud siren-type horn alarm that wails when somebody starts whacking or prying on the metal. Talk to your local car alarm dealer. He can give you something where you can adjust the sensitivity so that one good whack will set it off. Once the wailing starts, if he can't cut the wires fairly quickly and shut it off, he probably won't have the patience to finish the job before taking off.

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  • doomsknight62doomsknight62 Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You might think about getting a home security system, too, unless you live in an apartment. They seem worthwhile- according to police, my system has already repelled one would-be burglar while we were out of town. I feel a little bit better leaving home when I know that sucker is armed!

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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Their descent safes they will protect your Firearms from thiefs.But I never did see one protect guns during a full blown fire.It will cause your gun Insurance to come down some.But make sure you get that Dehumidifier rod and some Silicone cans to prevent rust.


    Best!!

    Rugster


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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can purchase a fire rated gun safe. Any where from lined with 5/8" type X drywall(generally rated 1200 degrees for 30 minutes) to fire cement (rated 1800 for 2 hours). Both will protect your guns from fire.
    Also most gun safes use a fixed flange on the hinge side. Because if the crook cuts the hinges the fixed flange still prevents the door from comming off.
    A gun safe will prevent 99.99% of crooks from taking your guns. Unless you have a collection that the .01% of crooks is willing to work for they will pass you by.

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  • GunFixerGunFixer Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would have to agree with that. Just give me a quickie saw and I can get into just about any safe I guess. It keeps the snatch and grabs out of your stuff.

    quote:Originally posted by Rafter-S
    sundowner--

    There is no such thing as a burglur-proof safe. Someone determined, with enough time and equipment, can crack the best of them. Generally speaking, the type of people who break in to yours and my house are not equipped to crack a safe...and time is their enemy. They have to grab things and get out of there fast. So virtually any safe on the market will protect from your average thief.

    My humble opinion,
    Rafter-S
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  • 257izmycal257izmycal Member Posts: 684 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had a contact alarm added to the door of mine like you would have on your front door. If you do not turn the safe door "zone" off it is the same as them opening the front door. It goes off in silent mode and notifies the police. It actually is connected to a second relay to the alarm company. It is a Liberty safe and I had the phone connector put behind the safe so they would have to disconnect the wire from the wall to disarm it in the house. When my phone line is interupted the alarm company is alerted and they call my cell since the home phone is out of order. Mine has 14 bolts I think. 4 on each side and 3 on top and 3 on bottom.
    I think the Liberty was the best price for the money with Cannon being second in my area due to shipping.

    JM2CW

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  • madmarc0madmarc0 Member Posts: 862 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have the Liberty and love mine, I bought another for my handguns.

    I found the price to be good as well as the fit and finish and the local dealer delivers and offers good service.

    Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun has!
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  • sundownersundowner Member Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, it's been almost a year since I started this thread. I did end up buying the Liberty, and it is completely full. Wish I'd have bought bigger -- at the time I never thought I'd fill this one up, though. I do have a house with a monitored alarm system now (when I bought it I was in an apartment).


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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,518 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As I stated before in a previous thread. Most gun safes are made from 18-22 gauge steel. A simple cordless screwgun and drill will penetrate a side easily. Then take a cordless recipicating saw and cut it with a metal blade. 5 minutes max and the whole side can be cut away. Safes are meant to slow the bugular down and keep the guns out of the hands of children within the home.
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  • chuckchuck Member Posts: 4,911
    edited November -1
    Select, Thanks a lot for telling the whole world how to get in to our safe's
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