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Hunter? Shooter? Who Is The Good Neighbor?

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited February 2002 in General Discussion
Hunter? Shooter? Who Is The Good Neighbor?Gary Atkinson is a good neighbor, even though his nearest neighbor lives hundreds of feet away. He makes his home in rural Chapin, South Carolina on thirteen hilly, mostly wooded acres, along with his wife Lisa, sons Tom and Yates, two horses, three yard dogs, and "too many cats to count" as Gary puts it. "Somebody's got to take in the homeless animals" he explains. "If not, well.." His voice trails off. No need to describe the fate of stray animals in a sparsely populated area. Gary's job in heavy equipment sales brought him from Illinois to South Carolina in 1985. He promptly fell in love with the area, and bought acreage 25 miles and a culture away from the state capitol in Columbia. Gary and Lisa bought a second, adjoining parcel in 1988, and began building their dream house in 1990. "We moved into the house in 1992" Gary says with a laugh, "but we never stopped building. A barn. Outbuildings. A pool. A pond. There's always something going on at our place". When the time came for Gary to change jobs, he stayed in South Carolina. Gary admits his rural homestead isn't as rural as it once was. Fifteen families now live along his dead-end country road, and more are discovering this long-forgotten corner of Richland County every year. But it remains a close-knit community, where everybody knows everybody else. The kids play together, the adults are good friends, and the entire neighborhood gets together several times a year for a massive "block party". But being a good neighbor involves more than holding block parties and swimming in each other's pools. It involves being there when people have a need. For example, Lisa prepares meals for shut-ins, and Gary uses his tractor and chain saw to help around the neighborhood. Sometimes he cuts grass for people who can't do it themselves. When Mike, their neighbor across the street, broke his back in a fall from a deer stand, Gary built special rails on Mike's front steps so that Mike could get in and out of his house. And when there was a loud explosion in the woods behind another neighbor's house, she immediately called Gary and asked him to investigate. Gary found a tree had fallen across a power line in a right-of-way, and started a fire. He fought the fire himself while others summoned help. By the time the trained firefighters arrived, Gary had brought the blaze under control. The firefighters' main job was to put out the still-burning utility pole. That's the kind of "good neighbor" Gary is. For 34 years Gary bought his insurance from State Farm, a company that claims its a good neighbor. His father got him started with car insurance when Gary was 16. Gary later bought homeowners insurance from State Farm, and eventually added an umbrella policy to protect the assets he had accumulated. Gary was happy with State Farm. And State Farm should have been happy with Gary, because he has an excellent claims record. True, his car was broken into several years ago. Hurricane Hugo blew down a tree. And a pipe burst, causing damage in his basement. Not bad, for 34 years of State Farm coverage. Gary's rosy relationship with State Farm came to a screeching halt a few months ago, when he casually mentioned to the local State Farm office that he had been shooting in a ravine back in the woods behind his house. The local agent, who he regarded as a friend, didn't like that, and questioned Gary closely. Shooting? With guns? He answered all of her questions, and even took her through the woods to the ravine so she could see the area for herself. She wasn't happy. Neither was the home office. State Farm promptly canceled Gary's coverage for what the company called "the operation of the shooting range on your property". Hunting and recreational shooting are a way of life in rural South Carolina, and in much of the rest of America. Gary has enjoyed these activities since he was seven years old, when his father started him with a .22 bolt action rifle. (It's a tradition Gary hopes to pass on to his own sons.) Still, Gary tried to appease State Farm by offering to limit his shooting. Would they ever let him shoot on his own property, or did the company insist on a total ban? "Maybe once in a Blue Moon" the agent told him. "What about hunters going through my woods?" Gary asked. "It's just too dangerous" she replied. Gary next offered to protect State Farm from any liability for his shooting. The ravine was on a parcel of land separate from the house, so what if they just insured the parcel with the house? No deal. Gary went out and bought a million dollar liability policy from an NRA-endorsed underwriter to cover his shooting activities. Would State Farm be willing to exclude all shooting activities from his homeowners policy? Still no deal. So, what did State Farm want from him? Gary asked State Farm's agent to point out the fine print in his policy, or to show him something in writing, so that he could keep the company happy. She conceded there was no fine print, nothing in the policy, and nothing in writing anywhere. But the company regards shooting activities as a "factor of increased risk" she told him, and as reason for terminating his coverage. The company would never be happy. State Farm's agent also tried to stop Gary from shooting by claiming all of the other national insurance companies had similar "no shooting" rules, so Gary shouldn't bother to shop around. But Gary did shop around, and he quickly learned that many companies were more than happy to insure safe shooters. Gary now has all the insurance coverage he wants. From companies that are happy to have his business. At prices lower than he was paying State Farm. Gary still shoots in the ravine behind his house. And he's still a good neighbor. But he's really, really disappointed with State Farm. "This never was about risk" Gary concludes. "Its about guns. State Farm just doesn't want me shooting. Ever." ACTION - GrassRoots South Carolina urges all policy holders with State Farm to contact State Farm and voice complaints regarding their decision to cancel policies based on discrimination of lawful use of firearms when there are no statistics to show increased risk. Voice your protests and concerns directly to them or else find yourself facing increased guidelines in the future - like possible non-coverage of firearms owners. To contact State Farm Fire and Casualty Company call 309.766.7554 or visit http://www.statefarm.com/email.htm Further contact information:Mr. Edward Rust, PresidentState Farm Fire and Casualty CompanyOne State Farm Plaza Bloomington IL 61710-0001 Gary's Former State Farm Agent:Renee Wilder120 Columbia AvenueChapin, SC 29036-9420Phone: (803) 345-3135Fax: (803) 345-6700 http://www.scfirearms.org/garya.htm

Comments

  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    They got an earfull from me!
    If you can't fix it with a hammer, take it to a mechanic. will270win@aol.com ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • k.stanonikk.stanonik Member Posts: 2,109 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I recently moved all my insurance to state farm, the agent did look to happy about my collection but i was insured. After reading this post i guess i start shopping again.
  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I emailed State Farm, and am now getting ready to copy this and send it via email to everyone in my address book! I will also print this and distribute it among all my friends who shoot, and the local shooting club.
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe this is old news.I think State Farm has already issued an apology on this issue.I think this story is a few years old?The insurance actuaries know the numbers--they understand that firearms do not represent any type of significant risk exposure. Things like basket-ball hoops and playground equipment represent insurance risks (literally) hundreds of times greater than guns or private shooting ranges.Examples: How many people died from accidents with handguns in 1998? Answer: 140 Or: How many people died from accidents involving any type of firearm in 1998? Answer: 726. Compare those numbers to things like deaths from accidental falls: 16,274. Or drownings: 3,964. Or burn/fire deaths: 3,255. And even "non-traffic" motor vehicle accidents (often occuring at home): 1,310. Numbers are from the Census Bureau.I'm a member of GrassRoots here in SC; if I get time I'll see if I can did up the details on this story.[This message has been edited by competentone (edited 02-23-2002).]
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, even if it *is* old news, it never hurts to stick the knife in a little deeper. I just emailed them, truthfully, that I'm in the market for new casualty policies for home & motor vehicles . . . and that they just lost all chance at the business. Make 'em work a little on their PR . . . maybe give a break to gun owners or NRA members . . . who knows? I'm tired of taking it on the chin from politikally korrect korporate Amerika. I don't buy Levi products, my kids won't wear them - and they have talked to every other kid they know who likes to shoot & hunt. Last I knew, Levi had lost 10+ teenage consumers because of the effort. Won't change korporate policies, but at least they don't support the pc Gestapo with *those* kids' money.
  • rogue_robrogue_rob Member Posts: 7,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I switched over FROM state farm because they charged ENTIRELY too much money for their coverage. I was with them for 10 years and had NEVER used any coverage. I had a few speeding tickets so my coverage was a little high. However, My last ticket was ALMOST 3 years before, I had bought a truck and was goin to cover it too. I called them up to add it and to see if they would drop the price some because it was close to 3 years. they said NO. so I called USAA insurance, they not only covered me, they cut my insurance in half. I couldnt believe the difference. IN HALF!!!!! I had full coverage on both vehicles for less than the one car had cost me with state farm.USAA is a military insurance company and covers ex military and retirees as well as thier families.check into themhttps://www.usaa.com/
  • oldfriendsoldfriends Member Posts: 167 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My parents had State Farm for years with no claims on anything. Car or home. My brother was covered under the policy while living at home. He had an accident. State Farm dropped the family. This was in the 70's. I've never had to consider them however. I have had USAA for my cars for about 30 years and home for about 20. Never had a problem. Once insured with USAA, even your kids are elegible once they leave home. Great company, great service. In the years I have had USAA, I would often drop in or receive a phone call from other insurance companies wanting to compare. I tell them I have USAA and they, in every instance, say they can not beat USAA. Just thought I would add my two cents on this topic. Ed
    Life is Tough!It's Tougher if You're Stupid
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