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Common Core math video.

RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
edited March 2014 in General Discussion
First video I have seen of how the new common core math is being taught.

It is stupid and adds lots of extra unneeded steps. What a waste.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/02/why-are-they-making-math-harder-more-absurd-common-core-math-problems/




Im very glad that I was brought up learning the traditional way.

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  • calrugerfancalrugerfan Member Posts: 18,209
    edited November -1
    I didn't check out the video but I can tell you that the curriculum my wife's last school had, before Common Core was created, screwed up math so much. There was no more "borrowing," it was now "renaming."

    Bottom line, there are good curriculums and bad curriculums. It has nothing to do with common core.
  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Confusing, convoluted, and unnecessary.
  • nards444nards444 Member Posts: 3,994 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Our math skills are terrible along with other skills such as science but Im not so sure complicating the process is the way to make it better. The true solution is more of it, more quality, demanding perfections, and integrating technology.
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    you think the video is bad,..you should try watching it for real when you visit your child's classroom[V]
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How is this new math going affect how Higher math is done. Will kids one they make college have to relearn math all over again.
  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    Did she actually solve the problem: 32-12=20,
    with all those steps?
  • likemhotlikemhot Member Posts: 2,885 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did she say "What a student might be axed to do" Good thing she's not an English teacher
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it takes that many steps to do such a simple problem, how many steps when you get into numbers of real value?

    How would they do 1,987,647,987,234,234,556,777 - 3,467,908,785,894

    Any of us could do that using conventional math in a very short amount of time, would like to see the teacher do that with her new-fangled figuring.
  • RUGERGUNZRUGERGUNZ Member Posts: 5,638 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just had a thought, maybe that is the point, they don't want people to be able to fathom large numbers such as the national debt!
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by calrugerfan
    I didn't check out the video but I can tell you that the curriculum my wife's last school had, before Common Core was created, screwed up math so much. There was no more "borrowing," it was now "renaming."

    Bottom line, there are good curriculums and bad curriculums. It has nothing to do with common core.




    i dont understand how you can argue about a video you admited you didnt watch, and on behalf of your wifes career, and deny what every other member has witnessed as "common core"



    my wife is an acountant, i surely cannot give advice on or debate accounting
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Just a thought, why not subtract 12 from 32 and be done with it?
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  • guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,188 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Just a thought, why not subtract 12 from 32 and be done with it?


    Because that would be "common sense" math.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Just a thought, why not subtract 12 from 32 and be done with it?


    Because that would be "common sense" math.
    I guess I don't see the wisdom or ease of doing 5 addition problems just to do one subtraction problem. Of course, truly it's an addition problem of a negative number, but I can see why they don't confuse elementary students with that technicality.
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    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • calrugerfancalrugerfan Member Posts: 18,209
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    quote:Originally posted by calrugerfan
    I didn't check out the video but I can tell you that the curriculum my wife's last school had, before Common Core was created, screwed up math so much. There was no more "borrowing," it was now "renaming."

    Bottom line, there are good curriculums and bad curriculums. It has nothing to do with common core.




    i dont understand how you can argue about a video you admited you didnt watch, and on behalf of your wifes career, and deny what every other member has witnessed as "common core"



    my wife is an acountant, i surely cannot give advice on or debate accounting


    Simple. I already saw the way math was being taught BEFORE common core. I also know that common core is not a curriculum, it is a set of standards. In other words, common core does not say HOW anything has to be taught, only WHAT has to be taught.

    You guys would know this if you actually did some research. People posted pictures about "what common core teaches about the second amendment" yet nobody could actually find it on the common core website. My wife has a common core app on her phone. She has shown it to me.

    I am starting to wonder if ANYBODY here knows the difference betweens standards and curriculum.

    And nowhere did I "argue" about the video. I simply pointed out that math has been screwed up for awhile. I also pointed out that the way things are taught has nothing to do with standards, only with curriculum.
  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    l had an amusing encounter with a middle school math teacher a couple years back..She was amazed l could do my multiplication tables up thru 12 in my head..[:0]l replied,''l think l memorized those in the third grade''..She said rote memory exercises were discouraged in school now because they were 'boring'..

    Being a little mischevious l asked her how she finds her way to school .. She said,''l have a Garmin'' [:0]
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any one remember them trying "New Math" in the late 60's Early 70's? It was scraped pretty quick. I remember my Grandmother who was a H.S. teacher in 1925 had a fit when she had seen what I was being taught in the 4th-5th grade.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Flash Cards![:D]
  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think what the lady is saying makes a lot of sense.

    A constant problem I have with kids is what's called a lack of number sense. Number sense is an intuitive and very familiar understanding of numbers, of counting, of being able to see patterns in numbers, of being able to recognize answers that are reasonable and unreasonable.

    A kid with no number sense will be given the problem 106 X 4 and will reach for a pencil and a piece of paper. A kid with number sense will tell you the product is 424, and will explain that 100 X 4 is 400 and 6 X 4 is 24, and the sum of those two is 424.

    A kid with no number sense will get an answer of, say, 17 for 380-63 and will not stop, look at his answer, and realize it couldn't possibly be correct. A kid with number sense will realize that the answer has to be north of 300.

    What the lady is doing is trying to get the kids to see patterns, to see better ways to count, to see different ways to solve problems. This is very impressive instruction. It's designed to build a very solid foundation and to make kids ultra-proficient with counting and basic arithmetic, which will then make them much better students in higher math.

    I can tell you that the best math students that I work with, the ones who not only can calculate quite well but who can also reason and apply, do tricks like what the lady is showing. They use such tricks all the time.

    Think I'm full of it? Let me give you an analogy.

    Here are some things we should NEVER do when practicing defensive handgun shooting. When reloading on the range, NEVER drop your magazine on the ground. Always take out the empty magazine and carefully place it back in your pocket or belt magazine holder. Dropping a magazine could break the baseplate or bend the body of the magazine, and that's just foolishness. There's no reason not to protect your equipment.

    Never practice with your non-dominant hand or your non-dominant eye. If you're right-handed and right-eyed, you'll shoot best using those. Practicing with your left hand is just a waste of time.

    Never practice shooting from a non-traditional position. You should always be standing when shooting. Practicing shooting from your knees or flat on your back--it's just too difficult and not conducive to accuracy. Go with what comes easily.

    Eliminate all distractions when shooting. Loud noises around you, flashing lights, smoke--all of that can distract you from your target. You want peace and quiet when you're shooting.

    Be sure to practice only in bright light. You'll be able to see your handgun and target quite well and be safe. Never practice shooting in dim or dark conditions.

    Make sure your heart rate is as slow as possible and you're totally relaxed before practicing. You want to be calm and mellow for your best accuracy.

    Handguns rarely jam or malfunction. Accordingly there's no reason to waste time practicing on how to deal with such a problem. When it occurs you can figure it out at that time.

    All of the above about defensive handgun shooting makes sense. It really does. I've given you reasons why it all makes sense. Except for people who really know defensive handgun shooting, it doesn't make sense at all.

    What the lady is doing seems unnecessarily complicated and difficult and needless. Except if you really know math and how kids learn and what skills will help them, kids benefit from learning the methods she's discussing.
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