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I need a new compressor

MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
edited November 2008 in General Discussion
Been shopping for a new compressor to put in my shop and am about to buy this
http://www.grizzly.com/products/7-1-2-HP-2-Stage-Compressor/G2815

Anyone know of a comparable compressor or a better deal that I should look at?
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  • DBMJR1DBMJR1 Member Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You must have an automotive shop. That's a lot of CFM's. DA sanders, and drills take that much air. Tire tools, maybe.

    Good luck. For the price, I think you are doing well.
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  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't buy CH. They are JUNK JUNK JUNK!

    I own a tool store, if you are wondering what my references are. Just about anything is better than CH. Even the Taiwanese made Porter-Cables/Huskies/etc from Home Depot.

    Merc
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  • LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by DBMJR1
    You must have an automotive shop. That's a lot of CFM's. DA sanders, and drills take that much air. Tire tools, maybe.

    Good luck. For the price, I think you are doing well.


    Looks good for the price.

    Some cheap tricks.

    Remove the drain valve on the bottom of the tank and replace it with a 90, straight tube/pipe and a 1/4 turn ball valve before you set it up. Run the tube out to where the ball valve is easy to get to for draining the moisture out of the tank. The exhaust side of the ball valve can also be ran through a wall using tubing to the outside. keeps water off of your floor. Getting to those cheap drain valves on 90% of compressors can be a hassle causing you to not want to drain the tank as often as needed. Drain valves can also be gotten for semi truck air tanks that have a pull cord attached to them that makes it easy to drain water from an air tank.

    During cold or damp weather. Open the drain valve and allow the compressor to run a few minutes before building up pressure. This helps to heat the compressor and the tube going into the tank. Leaves you with less water condensation in the tank from cold air meeting hot air once it does warm up.
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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Merc,
    Are these any good?

    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=90836
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  • jeffb1911jeffb1911 Member Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Too bad you are not close to East Texas. i have a 60 gallon 175 psi ingersol rand compressor i'm trying to get rid of.
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  • ForkliftkingForkliftking Member Posts: 4,907 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Stick with Quincey or IR brands. They cost a little more but you will be happier in the long run.
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  • trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    I have owned 1 CH .
    Will not make that mistake again.
    Now have a Craftsman and could not be happier.
    Now somebody will tell me that CH makes them for Sears .
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  • MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good information and exactly why I asked you guys.
    What was the problems with the CH? Noisy or just wears out?
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  • ForkliftkingForkliftking Member Posts: 4,907 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MVP
    Good information and exactly why I asked you guys.
    What was the problems with the CH? Noisy or just wears out?

    Both of the above.
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  • toolsforfoolstoolsforfools Member Posts: 1,285 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I sold tools and compressors for 27 years (INGERSOLRAND)parts are easy to get like air filters.Great warrenty to.
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  • MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks[B)]
    It took me 3 weeks to narrow it down to this compressor and now I have to start all over[B)][:D]
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  • toolsforfoolstoolsforfools Member Posts: 1,285 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry better to ask than have to kick start it everytime you want to use it.[;)]
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  • ForkliftkingForkliftking Member Posts: 4,907 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, alot depends on how much you will actually use it. If you are only going to use it once or twice a week, the CH would be fine. It would last you a lifetime. If you plan on it running 2+ hours per day, you need to stick with Quincey or IR. Happy shopping.
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought one from Lowes about a year ago. It was a vertical 80 gallon with slightly less CFM at 175/90 PSI. And it was less than $900.00.

    I have sandblasted with it and it has never run out of air while blasting from an 80 lb pot.

    Here is a link to the one I have:
    http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=96634-1126-HS4180&lpage=none
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
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  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,224 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    I would jump on that compressor if it was me. CH makes Craftsman, or at least used to. I have a 110v 2hp CH I got used in '93 or '94. When is it supposed to wear out? USA made too!![^]
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by LesWVa
    quote:Originally posted by DBMJR1
    You must have an automotive shop. That's a lot of CFM's. DA sanders, and drills take that much air. Tire tools, maybe.

    Good luck. For the price, I think you are doing well.


    Looks good for the price.

    Some cheap tricks.

    Remove the drain valve on the bottom of the tank and replace it with a 90, straight tube/pipe and a 1/4 turn ball valve before you set it up. Run the tube out to where the ball valve is easy to get to for draining the moisture out of the tank. The exhaust side of the ball valve can also be ran through a wall using tubing to the outside. keeps water off of your floor. Getting to those cheap drain valves on 90% of compressors can be a hassle causing you to not want to drain the tank as often as needed. Drain valves can also be gotten for semi truck air tanks that have a pull cord attached to them that makes it easy to drain water from an air tank.

    During cold or damp weather. Open the drain valve and allow the compressor to run a few minutes before building up pressure. This helps to heat the compressor and the tube going into the tank. Leaves you with less water condensation in the tank from cold air meeting hot air once it does warm up.




    Some good advise. I did replace the drain valve with a 90 and ball valve. Also I put an electric valve on the compressor (the compressor is located in a storage room on the far side of the shop) and ran a switch to turn on the air from where I normally use the lathe or milling machines.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
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  • ForkliftkingForkliftking Member Posts: 4,907 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    I bought one from Lowes about a year ago. It was a vertical 80 gallon with slightly less CFM at 175/90 PSI. And it was less than $900.00.

    I have sandblasted with it and it has never run out of air while blasting from an 80 lb pot.

    Here is a link to the one I have:
    http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=96634-1126-HS4180&lpage=none



    What size nozzle does your sandblaster have? When we sandblast, we use a 185 CFM compressor and it runs at full throttle.
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  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,224 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    Best drain valve to get is an automatic ejector valve, slangly called a spitter valve, for a truck. It automaticly ejects every time the compressor cycles on/of, so there is no moisture build up.
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  • MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forkliftking
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    I bought one from Lowes about a year ago. It was a vertical 80 gallon with slightly less CFM at 175/90 PSI. And it was less than $900.00.

    I have sandblasted with it and it has never run out of air while blasting from an 80 lb pot.

    Here is a link to the one I have:
    http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=96634-1126-HS4180&lpage=none



    What size nozzle does your sandblaster have? When we sandblast, we use a 185 CFM compressor and it runs at full throttle.

    Thats what I like about the compressor I am asking about. It is putting 25+psi out which should run my sandblaster with ease and then some.
    I hate buying underpowered tools that barely supply the need.
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  • MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MT357
    Best drain valve to get is an automatic ejector valve, slangly called a spitter valve, for a truck. It automaticly ejects every time the compressor cycles on/of, so there is no moisture build up.

    Where can I buy a spitter valve? NAPA?
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  • MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tommyjoe
    Check the oil once a month. I didnt and lost a connecting rod.
    It was fixable though with a new rod to the tune of $40.00.
    Mine was a CH sold by Home Depot about 4 yr old 60 gal tank 5hp
    This compressor was USA made.Do a lot of sandblasting & painting with mine. Tom

    The USA Made is always a BIG Plus for me in my decisions for purchase.
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  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,224 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MVP
    quote:Originally posted by MT357
    Best drain valve to get is an automatic ejector valve, slangly called a spitter valve, for a truck. It automaticly ejects every time the compressor cycles on/of, so there is no moisture build up.

    Where can I buy a spitter valve? NAPA?
    Yep, NAPA should have them, or any place that sells heavy truck parts.
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forkliftking
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    I bought one from Lowes about a year ago. It was a vertical 80 gallon with slightly less CFM at 175/90 PSI. And it was less than $900.00.

    I have sandblasted with it and it has never run out of air while blasting from an 80 lb pot.

    Here is a link to the one I have:
    http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=96634-1126-HS4180&lpage=none



    What size nozzle does your sandblaster have? When we sandblast, we use a 185 CFM compressor and it runs at full throttle.


    The nozzle is only 1/4". I'm not sandblasting for a living. I just clean up rust and scale before painting on equipment that I have.

    I have other compressors. Little portable 110 volt ones for running a nail gun or impact. I also have a 10 hp three stage that I brought up here with me. But this shop does not have 3 phase, so it sits in the store room. I also have an I.R. 5 stage the puts out 15 CFM at 5,000 PSI. But that is also sitting in the store room.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
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  • ForkliftkingForkliftking Member Posts: 4,907 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The 5 stage would be good if you were filling dive bottles. Hard to find anyone with one around here. Some guys that I used to race with had one and they filled oxygen bottles with compressed air for their impact wrenches, ect. 5000# of portable air would last them all night with no problems and they didn't have to lug an air compressor to the track.
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by forkliftking
    The 5 stage would be good if you were filling dive bottles. Hard to find anyone with one around here. Some guys that I used to race with had one and they filled oxygen bottles with compressed air for their impact wrenches, ect. 5000# of portable air would last them all night with no problems and they didn't have to lug an air compressor to the track.


    And that's what I use it for. Along with a bank of 6 340 cubic foot storage bottles.

    But since I don't dive anymore I just use it to fill Aluminum 80's for filling tires and running nail guns.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
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  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know anything about that brand, sorry. From the price and that it has a two year warranty, I'd say it is probably decent.

    Quincy Compressors are GREAT!!!!!!! At least they used to be, I assume they still are. Can't go wrong with Ingersol-Rand, either.

    Merc





    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    Merc,
    Are these any good?

    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=90836
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  • mango tangomango tango Member Posts: 3,833 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Doesn't Home Depot sell a 2 stage compressor? Seems to me they do, and i think it's cheaper than the one from Grizzly!
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  • MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I looked and the CFM of the one from grizzly is what really caught my eye.
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  • bartobarto Member Posts: 4,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Alpine-
    Might want to check into filling paintball canisters also.
    A bud of my son does that at the regional meets & it pays for ALL his paintball supplies & makes him a few bucks besides.
    [^]barto[^]
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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by barto
    Alpine-
    Might want to check into filling paintball canisters also.
    A bud of my son does that at the regional meets & it pays for ALL his paintball supplies & makes him a few bucks besides.
    [^]barto[^]


    Thanks, but I'm not looking for a job. And the wear and tear on a 1960's compressor is not something I want to do. But I do have a Poseidon P-91 portable compressor I could that with. 5 hp gas motor drives a 3200 PSI compressor. Fills an 80 in twenty minutes.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
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  • toolsforfoolstoolsforfools Member Posts: 1,285 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    When you do buy it don't forget to put oil in it.I sold one to a customer.I had it shipped to him and he forgot to put oil in it.It locked up in 5 min.
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  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    Used a IR for over 20 years and still going strong. I have gel coated many boats with that compressor and have painted so many Harleys that I can't remember how many.
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