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Help me identify these snakes...

RamtinxxlRamtinxxl Member Posts: 9,480
edited June 2008 in General Discussion

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  • sarge_3adsarge_3ad Member Posts: 8,387 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • watrulookinatwatrulookinat Member Posts: 4,693
    edited November -1
    ummm...that doesn't look like relaxation to me.
  • chollagardenschollagardens Member Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The black and white one looks like a California King Snake. I would have to get a closer view to id the others.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    The other two are of the genus Elaphe. One is either a rosy rat snake or a corn snake and the other is yellow rat snake.
  • PJPJ Member Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have her turn over so I can get a better look.
    Pete
  • wlfmn323wlfmn323 Member Posts: 4,712
    edited November -1
    that lady needs to move before someone hacks them things with a machete or has a little target practice.
    only good snakes a dead one, and those my friends are no good.
  • dan kellydan kelly Member Posts: 9,799
    edited November -1
    well, if i was still in northern australia and i saw that black and white striped one i would keep away from it. it looks exactly like a coral snake (sea snake) and they are extremely deadly. [xx(]
    a lot of locals there call them cigarette snakes, in other words,if you get bit you sit back, have a smoke, and by the time you have smoked half of it you are dead![xx(]
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:only good snakes a dead one, and those my friends are no good.

    That's your opinion. My opinion is that you have a lot to learn.
  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    quote:only good snakes a dead one, and those my friends are no good.

    That's your opinion. My opinion is that you have a lot to learn.


    I agree, snakes eat disease carrying rodents, long live the snake!
    same with spiders, who eat mosquitoes forever love the spider! Frogs rule too.. as long as frogs kill flies and mosquitoes I will never kill a frog.
  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Heh.......you have no right to talk, turtle killer!!!!!!!!!! [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]


    Merc [:p]

    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    quote:only good snakes a dead one, and those my friends are no good.

    That's your opinion. My opinion is that you have a lot to learn.
  • gun_runnergun_runner Member Posts: 8,999
    edited November -1
    I have a red tail boa named Ragik. He is one of the best pets Ive ever had. "The only good snakes a dead one" comment and others like it are ignorant fear based responses. Snakes are good creatures and they serve a purpose just like most of the people on the planet. And what better purpose than laying on a womans back!!??[:p]
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    Merc, you are a funny guy!

    I will kill a snake, too, if it is causing a problem and killing it is the only way I can deal with it. Same with just about any varmint. I don't like killing critters, but I will if it is causing me a problem or if I am going to eat it.

    Since my turtle post, I have been soundly upbraided and educated, and vow to leave the snappers alone unless I am convinced they are causing trouble.
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    Merc, you are a funny guy!

    I will kill a snake, too, if it is causing a problem and killing it is the only way I can deal with it. Same with just about any varmint. I don't like killing critters, but I will if it is causing me a problem or if I am going to eat it.

    Since my turtle post, I have been soundly upbraided and educated, and vow to leave the snappers alone unless I am convinced they are causing trouble.


    Dad would even relocate the rattlers that came up to the house. He always said the snakes controlled his two worst problems, rats and rabbits.
  • wlfmn323wlfmn323 Member Posts: 4,712
    edited November -1
    ok, so i touched some sensitivity here. to clarify i am not ignorant, nor my dear nunn do i have a "lot to learn" of such things i am perfectly aware. spiders, mice, rats, snakes, flys, maggotts all have their place in the natural order of things. my family was from way back in the hills and hollars, and chances were that if you came across a snake it more than likely was poisonous. therefore my grandfathers philosophy was to kill them first and ask questions later. only good snake is a dead one was a saying that he and my father had, the those are not good comment was merely suggesting that the pictured snakes seemed to be alive, and thus no good.
    i shall have to remember that some senses of humor go to sleep before some of us do.
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    Lots of older folks killed snakes because living in the country, they didn'y have time to make it to a hospital if they were bitten, and there wasn't antivenom like there is now. It was insurance.

    I didn't see the changes start coming around until the 60's. After a few folks were over run with rats and rabbits, they started seeing some good in the snakes. The poisonous snakes we dealt with mostly were rattlers, and they are not very agressive, so a little common sense, and one could avoid trouble and benifit from the good they had to offer.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    My dad was old country school, too, and he also killed any snake he saw. That is, up until I reached my teens and developed a keen interest in herpetology. I educated him, and he gained respect for snakes. He encouraged rat snakes to hang around to control the rodent population. He knew how much I liked hognose snakes, and one day he encountered one while playing golf. He caught it and put it in one of those zip pouches on his golf bag and brought it home to me.

    He never quit killing poisonous snakes, but he did learn how to tell the difference and to leave the harmless ones alone.
  • Wolf.Wolf. Member Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    The black one with the white, rather irregular white bands is a California King Snake....virtually a certainty, even with this rather poor photograph. The lighter snake the woman is holding is tough to call, but I'm going to guess a Rosy Boa or a Corn Snake, but I don't know for sure. The third snake is too blurred or too small to make the call, but it could be a Gopher Snake, a Bull Snake or another boa of some variety. Need better photos to tell for sure.

    None of these snakes are harmful to man. Even if they bite you, all that will happen is a tiny punture, if that. More likely an abrasion rather like a tiny saw scrape. Snakes are a big help to me in controling squirrels around here. We have a lot of the California King Snakes this year. They are very beautiful. I leave out waer for the snakes. and if I catch them around here, I relocate them to a squirrel burrow. Rattlesnakes are pretty shy and only come up when it has been really hot for several days and they want water. I have handled rattlesnakes before and if you are calm and slow the snake will crawl all over you, testing your scent with its tongue and then move quietly off.

    I'm guessing this woman is using the snakes in some sort of healing procedure. I guess she feels she needs the snakes to either focus her power or to act as an intermediary to stop noxious feedback from the patient. If she were a more practiced healer, she would not need the snakes.
  • wlfmn323wlfmn323 Member Posts: 4,712
    edited November -1
    wolf,
    i find that a .22 and a healthy appetite keeps the squirrel population under control, have gotten pretty good at knockin the little buggers out of the nut trees around here (SHHH! ,,, BEEN PRACTICING ON SNAKES!)[}:)][:D]
  • cowdoccowdoc Member Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    a naked woman...hhhhhmmmmm pry a one eyed wonder worm just around the corner??[:D]
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,696 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "family was from way back in the hills and hollars, and chances were that if you came across a snake it more than likely was poisonous"

    I live way back in the hills. If you come across a snake, more than likely it is not poisonous. To assert otherwise is to display ignorance.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Banded and striped phase California kingsnakes and a xanthic corn snake. Unless Gagirl tells us different.
  • wlfmn323wlfmn323 Member Posts: 4,712
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
    "family was from way back in the hills and hollars, and chances were that if you came across a snake it more than likely was poisonous"

    I live way back in the hills. If you come across a snake, more than likely it is not poisonous. To assert otherwise is to display ignorance.

    christ on a cracker, i dont think that my reminisance and attempt at a joke should be met with such put downs. to say that my grandfather was DISPLAYING IGNORANCE is a fallacy. fact. you dont know what hills and hollars he grew up in in the early 1900s, unpopulated means higher animal population.
    fact. i have been there with him to visit friends and relatives, and for your information EVERY snake that i ever saw there was either A-RATTLESNAKE or B-COPPERHEAD or C- COTTONMOUTH. those are facts.
    last i checked those snakes are ALL POISONOUS, to assert otherwise is your own display of ignorance.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, but most times Cottonmouths don't live in hills, they live by the water. If you got bluegill fishin in them hills, I wanna come visit![^]
  • RamtinxxlRamtinxxl Member Posts: 9,480
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    OK, but most times Cottonmouths don't live in hills, they live by the water. If you got bluegill fishin in them hills, I wanna come visit![^]


    FWIW: I've been in plenty'o hills what had streams, ponds, creeks, painted onto the landscape. Did anyone suggest that hills must be barren of water features? Cottonmouth moccasins and copperheads (aka "highland moccasins") can be found pert near anywhere ya look in some parts.
  • RapidFireFirearmsRapidFireFirearms Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have to tell you. I really don't like to kill anything unless I am hunting and can use the maet. But, I had a colt born about 2 weeks ago and he was a beautiful paint. Lived 5 days thanks to a snake on my farm. His fang width was about 1" to 1 1/4" span. I found him the next morning stiff and his momma standing over him. his left front leg swelled up twice it's size and bite marks. So it is open season on poiseness ones on my farm. Sorry guys but I wouldn't let anyone hurt my horses. My snake Slyther is safe he is in the house. Kanda
  • CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    quote:only good snakes a dead one, and those my friends are no good.

    That's your opinion. My opinion is that you have a lot to learn.


    Amen to that! So many people are afraid of snakes so they want to kill every snake they see, even if they are harmless and keep the rodent and insect popultaions in check!
  • rmeyerrmeyer Member Posts: 566 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    King snake, corn snake, rosy boa.
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