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Raven and Crow....is there a difference???

Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,086 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
I hear things about Ravens and Crows....are these the same bird?
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  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It depends where you live.
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  • KnifecollectorKnifecollector Member Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All ravens are crows, but crows can be jays, magpies, or other birds.
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  • SP45SP45 Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I always thought that Ravens were bigger.
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  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,086 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So.....a crow is a type of group....and a raven is part of the crow group?
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  • KnifecollectorKnifecollector Member Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Correct.
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  • bigcitybillbigcitybill Member Posts: 4,915 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://www.audubon.org/field-guide/bird/american-crow

    http://www.audubon.org/field-guide/bird/common-raven
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ravens have feathers down the nose of the beak. A crow does not. I compared the carcasses of the two in Alaska, curious about the difference. The raven is a bigger bird when mature by a pretty good margin.

    It was mind boggling to see them out flying at 50 below zero you would think the wind chill would freeze them solid in mid-flight.
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  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,808 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In Finland, where I come from. Crow is black and gray, raven is all black and lot bigger, ravens are lot harder to get any closer that 100 yards. Magpies are smaller that crows black and white, all are really smart. I had a crow that was tame when I was a little fellow, his name was Repe, and a local blacksmith killed him. I am still mad [}:)]
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  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It blows my mind the intelligence I garner just by reading this forum... quote:Corvidae is a cosmopolitan family of oscine passerine birds that contains the crows, ravens, rooks, jackdaws, jays, magpies, treepies, choughs and nutcrackers. In common English they are known as the crow family, or, more technically, corvids. There are over 120 species. The genus Corvus, including the jackdaws, crows and ravens, makes up over a third of the entire family.THANKS!

    I would have never thought that a Blue Jay was a freakin' Crow!
    Although, I do know their aggravatin' damn birds. Beautiful... BUT Aggravatin' none the less.
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  • pingjockeypingjockey Member Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We have mostly ravens up by Kamiah. Their vocabulary is fantastic!
    Especially when they get too close to a kingbird nest![:D]
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  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431 ✭
    edited November -1
    Many of the strange sounds you hear in the woods in northern MN come from ravens. They are fairly intelligent and have a vocabulary.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Seriously large tame ravens live on the Tower of London grounds.
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  • gregwgregw Member Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here in Upstate NY, the ravens ands crows look very much alike. The raven is however much bigger and has a raspier vocal call
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  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
    The ravens here in CO are pretty dang big. A couple years ago I pulled into the King Soopers parking lot and there was a raven sitting on a rabbit carcase in the parking stall I wanted. I pulled in thinking he'd fly off, nope! He stood his ground. Standing on the ground he could look up over the hood of the Accord. He looked at me like "Back off, Buster; this is my rabbit!"

    He was so cool lookin' I actually did go park in a different spot. He never even flinched.

    I didn't even know ravens ate meat. I don't know if he was eating meat, or the bugs on the carcase maybe. Whatever, he wasn't movin'.






    Ravens and crows are both scavengers when it's available.
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  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,503 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ravens have seven primary flight pinions and crows have six.

    So the difference between a raven and a crow is a matter of a pinion.








    (that's a joke, folks...)
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    Ravens have seven primary flight pinions and crows have six.

    So the difference between a raven and a crow is a matter of a pinion.


    (that's a joke, folks...)
    [:D]
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  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
    Another thing; most ravens are actually purple, not black like a crow. They look black from a distance, but if you look closely they're a really dark purple (almost like gun bluing).

    A friend of mine and I had a pet raven when we were kids. We rescued him off the side of a railroad track. Don't know if he hit the train or the other way around. He hung around for a number of years. Called him George. George was cool. One day he flew off and we never saw him again really. We think he may have come by for a brief visit the following year, but not 100% sure. George was huge; his beak was easily 2-1/2" long and he had about a 5' wingspan.


    Never thought about it but I believe you're spot on...

    1024px-Raven_Cypress_Provincial_Park_2.JPG quote:"In sunlight, the plumage can display a blue or purple sheen which is a result of iridescence."And for size... You're two for two. quote:"A mature common raven ranges between 56 and 78 cm (22 to 30 inches) in length, with a wingspan of 100 to 150 cm (40 to 59 in). Recorded weights range from 0.69 to 2 kg (1.5 to 4.4 lb), thus making the common raven one of the heaviest passerines."With 30 inches in length PLUS legs... I can imagine seeing how one would be looking over the hood of a car at you.
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  • texaswildmantexaswildman Member Posts: 2,215 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Corvidea is the jay, magpie and crow Family. Crows and Ravens share the same genus (Corvus), but are not the same species. There are 4 species of crows found in the US and a couple of species of ravens...
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  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guBwMUAWAJI
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Two different species, but often live in the same regions, usually separated by habitat preference and seasonal habitat use.

    Ravens are actually black, the appearance of blue or purple is due to iridescence in the feathers. Like in hummingbirds, the color is not pigmentary but due to the way the feathers refract and reflect light.
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  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    I don't know what group who
    belongs to what but in the last 15 yrs the crows
    around here are getting quite large and their
    call is changing.
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  • wiz1997wiz1997 Member Posts: 1,051 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Their calls are different.

    A crow says "CAW, CAW."

    A Raven says "Never more".

    [:D]
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  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 32,086 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pretty cool!

    I don't think we have Ravens here. I have never noticed one anyway.....and it looks like there are a few differences between them and the crows we have. Ours are pretty large...bigger than a blue jay, but not by much.
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  • LaidbackDanLaidbackDan Member Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One vowel
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  • Mk 19Mk 19 Member Posts: 8,170
    edited November -1
    Here you go Kasey, this might help:
    http://www.allaboutbirds.org/page.aspx?pid=2501
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  • edharoldedharold Member Posts: 465 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ravens are a big help in keeping the grounds clean when people are clumsy about their eating and garbage habits.
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  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    I actually saw my first Raven this week. See crows all the time. This guy stuck out like a sore thumb and it was obvious he was not a crow.
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