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What should I do?
thesupermonkey
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I am looking to get a 6.8mm AR variant. Should I buy the parts and build one, or should I just drop the cash and go with the Barrett? My only problem with building one is finding good parts. I am pretty confident the Barrett uses quality materials, but its pretty pricey.
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I sent email last night and I haven't heard back. Granted it's only been 12 hours but he is 7 days past when he said he would mail payment.
Should I await his email?
File NON pay bidder on him?
Or Should I wait until todays mail run and make sure nothing shows up?
He bought some ammo from me and he was johnny on the spot with payment. Sent payment next day delivery usps.
I don't want hard feelings, but I am trying to wrap up my auctions and move on.
Any suggestions?
I received part of the order on August 12th (minus the barrel, and barrel press). My credit card was only charged for the sent items.
I waited 2 days, and the emailed Karl (the owner) and asked him about the order. He said the barrels were "tied up in customs with Federal Arms".
I waited a full month (September 12th), but never received the parts or any updates from Karl or his staff on the status of my order. I sent him an email asking him to cancel my order.
September 15th I received an email back from him stating he would cancel my order.
September 24th I receive the barrel and barrel press. My credit card statement says I was charged on the September 23rd (9 days, after I canceled the order).
This put me in an awkward situation since I was skating thin, until my next paycheck.
I wrote Karl back that day explaining the situation, and asking him to please credit my account.
His response was to "send back the items and then he would issue the funds back".
I explained that since he withdrew the funds I didn't have enough money to eat, let alone ship his items back.
Over the past couple of days (25th, 26th) I made several request to credit my account before I was charged overdraft fees on some incoming items.
He never responded.
Long story short, I now have 60 dollars in overdraft fees as a result of his poor order management.
Here is the correspondence...
From: "karl@makarov.com"
To: "thesupermonkey@hotmail.com"
Subject: Your makarovpistol.com order has been received Date:
Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:46:14 -0400
Your order has been received and submitted to our sales
department.
For questions regarding your makarovpistol.com order, please
contact
karl@makarov.com or 1-888-625-3925
Please note that Express orders are USPS Priority Mail, NOT
Express (Overnight) Mail.
- Order #********* 8/6/02
9:46:10 AM EST
- BILLING INFO SHIPPING INFO
Adam Davis Adam Davis
********* *********
********* *********
********* *********
thesupermonkey@hotmail.com
Q Item # Description Unit $
1 63BarrelPres PA-63 Barrel Press 34.00
1 63springset PA63 Spring Set 9.00
1 63th380 PA63 Threaded 380 65.00
1 thrdprotecto PA-63 Thread Protector 5.00
Subtotal 113.00
Express Shipping 5.00
Paid by Visa #****-XXXX-XXXX-**** Total
$118.00
From: "Shadow Dragon"
To: karl@makarov.com
Subject: Order #*********
Date sent: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:47:18 +0000
I placed an order for the following parts on Aug 6th.
I did receive the spring set, but I did not receive the other
parts. Is there a problem with the order? Please email or call me
if there is anything I can do. Thanks, Adam Davis
From: "Karl F. Bloss"
Reply-To: karl@makarovpistol.com
To: "Shadow Dragon"
Subject: Re: Order #*********
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:09:23 -0700
Sorry for the Delay, we are still waiting on the Treaded barrels from
FAC.
With any luck they should be here this week.
From: "Shadow Dragon"
To: info@makarov.com
Subject: Re: Order #*********
Date sent: Wed, 13 Sep 2002 13:57:20 +0000
I would like to cancel any outstanding items on the above order.
Adam Davis
From: "Karl F. Bloss"
Reply-To: info@makarov.com
To: "Shadow Dragon"
Subject: Re: Order #*********
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:09:18 -0700
Hi Adam,
We'll do as you requested. Note that we JUST got the barrels and presses
in on Friday. Let me know if you're interested.
Sorry for the long delay, but they were tied up in customs with Federal
Arms.
-Karl
From: "Shadow Dragon"
To: info@makarov.com
Subject: Re: Order #*********
Date sent: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 13:57:20 +0000
Hi Karl,
I just received a barrel and barrel press(Pa63) from a previous order I
had canceled on the 15th. It's very important my card NOT be charged for
these items or if it has I need the amount to be credited back into my
account as soon as possible. I will ship the items back to you on
Friday (that's my off day). Thanks, Adam Davis
From: "Karl F. Bloss"
Reply-To: info@makarov.com
To: "Shadow Dragon"
Subject: Re: Order #*********
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:36:51 -0700
Sorry for the confusion, your request to cancel the order came in after it had
been processed. Return the Items and I will give you full credit for them.
Wed, 25 Sep 2002
(Don't have a copy of the correspondence, it was a nicer version of the below)
Thu, 26 Sep 2002
PLEASE RESPOND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
Karl,
Had this been a simple, items crossed in the mail I would have sent you back your items before requesting my funds back. However, nearly TWO FULL WEEKS after I had requested my order to be canceled, I was charged and the items were sent. This has placed me in a real bind. As of today I've had 3 overdraft fees, all of them, on items less than 10 dollars. That's over 60 dollars in overdraft fees. The error was on YOUR side so please do the right thing and credit my account asap!
Thanks,
Adam
Fri, 27 Sep 2002
Karl,
I'm very disappointed with your service. I had bought from you before and was very pleased, but apparently the quality of your staff and customer service has declined greatly since then.
I placed my order on August 6th.
I received part of my order on August 12th with no explanation for the missing parts.
On August 14th after sending you an email about the missing parts you said the parts may or may not be in, within a week.
I waited a full month (with no updates from you or your staff), before canceling my order.
You wrote back saying you would cancel my order on September 15th.
My check card was charged on the September 23rd and I received the items the 25th.
The item was shipped 9 days after you had confirmed my cancellation. This indicates a break down in communication on your end. The withdraw of those funds from my account cost me over 60 dollars in overdraft fees. I see that debt as YOUR obligation, though I have no way of making you pay. Restore my good faith in your company and pay for the debts you have caused me to incur through your poor management. I will be sending your items back today, or early Saturday. At the very minimum I expect full reimbursement for the items and the s/h required to send it back to you. Otherwise I will be forced to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.
Sincerely,
Adam Davis
Edited by - thesupermonkey on 09/27/2002 11:16:03
I don't want to make another mistake like I did with the sw40ve Sigma
"To meet with ill fortune is to meet with good fortune. To meet with submission is to meet an enemy."Mark_II@gunbroker.zzn.com
If you are not completely satisfied with how Karl handles this you stop doing business with him and you tell everybody you know to stop doing business with him. Eventually, he will lose far more than the $60 you lost and he will be the real loser.
Sorry for your troubles, I've had the same thing happen to me more than once...
G36
p.s. One more thing. Don't you think you should have just a little more cushion than that when you are buying stuff on credit? I mean, if you risk not being able to eat I think you might want to slow down on buying gun parts? Na, nevermind, get the gun and go hunting for dinner!
Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
Edited by - concealedG36 on 09/27/2002 11:17:25
Actually I had some unexpected expenses come up and it was really bad timing.
The itsy, bitsy spider crawled up the water...
BLAM BLAM BLAM!
I feel like an *...
>From: "Karl F. Bloss"
>Reply-To: info@makarov.com
>To: "Shadow Dragon"
>Subject: Re: Order #*********
>Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:53:17 -0700
>
>I will credit your Account today, (as soon as I finish writing this). Sorry
>again for the mix up, Karl could have handled the canceling of the Order, and
>forgot to delete the pending order, I'm really not sure, and I don't see a copy
>of the request. Sorry for the delay, everyone was out of town yesterday on a
>family Emergency.
>
>
>
>-George
The itsy, bitsy spider crawled up the water...
BLAM BLAM BLAM!
I explained that since he withdrew the funds I didn't have enough money to eat, let alone ship his items back.
I think you need to examine your priorities.
I'd say you're not in a financial position where you should be buying Markarov barrels...
Best!!!
Rugster
Toujours Pret
Well like I already said, several unexpected expenses came up. No, I wouldn't starve myself so I could buy a Makarov barrel. Seesh
The itsy, bitsy spider crawled up the water...
BLAM BLAM BLAM!
if your going to be a savage, be a headhunter
make sure I dont buy Mak. parts from him. Hope you get your refund
for overdrafts, as you should. Let us know and will put him on the
s***t list if not.