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Doesn't polits have any sercurity?

jltrentjltrent Member Posts: 9,337 ✭✭✭✭
edited September 2001 in General Discussion
Why aren't polits locked in the cockpits secure to where no one can enter?(heavy walls and doors) How can three to five people enter the cockpit with knives? If these people can't get to the polits cockpit (plane controls) they can't take over the plane. I just don't understand.
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is my understanding that the terrorists in at least one of the hijacked planes killed a couple of flight-attendants to "lure" the flight crew out of the cockpit. I think they do fly behind a locked door, but could you, as a pilot, keep yourself locked up if your crew was being killed? (of course, you wouldn't have the hindsight we have now either)G36
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    If indeed that's the way it went down, I can't imagine a planeload of people letting these scumbags murder the flight attendants and doing nothing to stop it.The terrorists must know Americans better than we know ourselves, because it boggles my mind to think that the passengers would wait for the flight crew to come out and take care of the problem.I know it's easy to Monday morning quarterback incidents like this, but I know for sure that nobody I consider a friend, nor myself, would sit there and do nothing while somebody cut up a stewardess.
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, I think they ALSO claimed to have bombs on-board. So, perhaps those (like us) who would have done something decided not to for the greater good. Again, we have hindsight that they don't have. Also, it is possible that the killings were done out of the sight of the passengers, maybe they used the intra-aircraft communication system to get the pilots into the back of the plane. I don't know, but I really don't think people just stood by and watched. Especially if the terrorists only had knives. I mean, I can't see myself not doing something even if they had guns. Knives, please....
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  • Mark IIMark II Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Don't fool yourself. A knife in trained hands is at least as dangerous as a firearm, although without the range.
    "To meet with ill fortune is to meet with good fortune. To meet with submission is to meet an enemy."
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  • jltrentjltrent Member Posts: 9,337 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was listening to and airplane expert on TV and he said the cockpit doors can easily be kicked or pried open. Boy this sure is smart to build a 30 million dollar plane and anybody can get to the controls easily. We sure do have a lot of smart engineers and security people designing these planes. Hell anybody with any common sense would think of this. (I have always believed in preparing for the worse and hopeing for the best) I sure would hate to be an airplane polit knowing that anybody can get to me and the controls this easy. (Boy wouldn't you like to be working on a top floor at the Empire State Building now, because we haven't seen the last of these type of attacks yet with this type of security for the polits on these planes.
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    What the hell is a "polit?"
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    "Polit" is a politician without the "ician".I think they did fight the terrorist on the plane that went down in PA. I heard several men took a vote and elected to fight back. I commend them for their bravery.In looking back on things like this, it's hard to understand how, if someone knows they are going to die, they just don't fight with all they have. The thing is, people never want to abandon all hope that they will somehow live through it. That makes such a decision so much more difficult.
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  • jltrentjltrent Member Posts: 9,337 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree Lowrider my spelling sucks. I am hooked on MS-Word correcting all my mistakes when I type fast and I don't have that here. My spelling never has been very good, and never will, even after completing two advanced degrees.
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  • opentopopentop Member Posts: 143 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well the main thing is that none of us really knows what really went on onboard the planes. It could very well be that one of the terrorists grabbed a woman or a child or someone and held a knife to their throat and told the rest of the passengers to stay seated or they'd slit that person's throat. What would someone do then. If one tried then to over power the hijackers, that could result in someone getting their throat cut. It would be a very hard thing to make a split decision about in those circumstances. I think it's coming to light that on the 4th plane that crashed in the Pennsylvania corn field, that perhaps the passengers did indeed finally decide they had nothing to lose and tried to over power the hijackers, causing the plane to crash there rather than into a vital target as the hijackers had intended. If that's the case, then those passengers are nothing less than great American heroes.
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