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ATF seeking public comment..
SG
Member Posts: 7,548
... on proposed bumpstock ruling. Let em know how you feel,I did[:D]
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/12/26/2017-27898/application-of-the-definition-of-machinegun-to-bump-fire-stocks-and-other-similar-devices#open-comment
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/12/26/2017-27898/application-of-the-definition-of-machinegun-to-bump-fire-stocks-and-other-similar-devices#open-comment
Comments
quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
Wish they ask if they should be disbanded.
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
All I know is some serious * lost a lot of money on their $800+ bumpstocks.
Aren't you just the freedom loving, pro 2a, all American patriot...[xx(]
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
All I know is some serious * lost a lot of money on their $800+ bumpstocks.
How is this a reflection on me that folks hoarded bumpstocks and then jacked the prices sky high in order to screw their fellow Americans? They the ones that reflect poorly on patriots and pro 2A people, not I.
That's how it's a reflection toward you.
You seemingly don't like capitalism either. I bet you are one who * and moaned about people making money on the ammo scare too.
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by SG
Aren't you just the freedom loving, pro 2a, all American patriot...[xx(]
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
All I know is some serious * lost a lot of money on their $800+ bumpstocks.
How is this a reflection on me that folks hoarded bumpstocks and then jacked the prices sky high in order to screw their fellow Americans? They the ones that reflect poorly on patriots and pro 2A people, not I.
quote:Comment
A machine gun fires in rapid succession with a single pull of the trigger. A bump stock does not change this premise. To fire the weapon with a bump stock installed, the trigger is still required to be pulled each and every time the gun fires. A bump stock does not make a rifle into a machine gun.
It still requires a single pull off the trigger in order to make a bumpstock work. What will be next to"rule" on? How fast you are"allowed" to pull a trigger or will it be a complete restriction on semi-auto weapons in general?
JMHO That's the goal . it would not take much to convene " rapid fire issue " from a trigger crank stock or what have you to anyone with a little practice can fire fast so its the ability of the gun in semi auto mode that will be the issue
I remember reading even having a printed paper that came with the old crank trigger , helfire or what ever the company's called theirs BATF ruled it still took one pull of the trigger to get one round fired so not a MG
quote:Originally posted by SG
What I think most of you fail to understand is that a ban on bumpstocks, whether you like them or not, will set a "ruling" president.
It still requires a single pull off the trigger in order to make a bumpstock work. What will be next to"rule" on? How fast you are"allowed" to pull a trigger or will it be a complete restriction on semi-auto weapons in general?
I should have sold it when the big panic hit [:D]
quote:Originally posted by fordsix
just got email today for 106.00 bumpys[;)][:D]
You call them * because you don't like bumpstocks and are obviously okay with another infringement on the 2a because it doesn't directly affect you.
That's how it's a reflection toward you.
You seemingly don't like capitalism either. I bet you are one who * and moaned about people making money on the ammo scare too.
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by SG
Aren't you just the freedom loving, pro 2a, all American patriot...[xx(]
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
All I know is some serious * lost a lot of money on their $800+ bumpstocks.
How is this a reflection on me that folks hoarded bumpstocks and then jacked the prices sky high in order to screw their fellow Americans? They the ones that reflect poorly on patriots and pro 2A people, not I.
Anyone that pays $800 for something that is an accessory and not a necessity that was $89.95 two days before is a *. I am ambivalent about bumpstocks, in fact I was going to buy one when the panic started, but at their original price not a panic driven hoarder price. Artificially driving prices up through fear and a manufactured supply problem is not capitalism. It is supply manipulation.
You make quite a few assumptions and you know nothing about me. I'm all for a free market, if folks like yourself want to pay ridiculous amounts for things that aren't necessities have at it. And to this point there has been no additional infringement on the 2A, all there has been is politicians running off at the mouth. My comment on people paying ridiculous amounts for a piece of plastic isn't about 2A it's about people allowing themselves to get caught in panic buying and I hope those that bought up large quantities of bumpstocks with the intention of screwing the consumer take a huge bath for their greed. If the bottom falls out of that market that's just as much a part of capitalism as you feel the hoarding of products to artificially drive the price up is part of capitalism.
I left my comments.
I affirmed their previous decision, and suggested that if they wish to rule otherwise they should open the registry for machine guns, instead of confiscating American's private property.
The leading bump stock manufacturer, Slide Fire Solutions, claims the device is intended to assist persons whose hands have limited mobility to fire a semi auto rifle. This is the reason that these gadgets are supposed to exist, so the ATF needs to receive tens of thousands of letters from disabled persons who use these stocks and won't be able to fire a rifle without them.
All other comments are pointless.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/11/gun-owners-america-bump-stock-gun-control-atf-bans/
But I did not like the part about your comment and personal info will become open to the public for viewing