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Gun Broker sellers like old time eBay sellers now.
lovethemcolts
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Is it me? Or is sellers here becoming like the old eBay? Witholding feedback?
REAL sellers ALWAYS post positive feedback for their buyers when payment is received.
The only reason a seller would ever hold feedback is to NEG a paying buyer ANYTIME they receive feedback they do not like.
I have considered neging each and EVERY seller that witholds feedback.
I ALWAYS post positive feedback to a paying buyer BEFORE I even ship the gun.
Ship an accurate described gun promptly and a good seller never should fear bad feedback from a paying buyer.
End of story...
REAL sellers ALWAYS post positive feedback for their buyers when payment is received.
The only reason a seller would ever hold feedback is to NEG a paying buyer ANYTIME they receive feedback they do not like.
I have considered neging each and EVERY seller that witholds feedback.
I ALWAYS post positive feedback to a paying buyer BEFORE I even ship the gun.
Ship an accurate described gun promptly and a good seller never should fear bad feedback from a paying buyer.
End of story...
Comments
IMO the buyer should post first when he is happy with the item.
What I do know is that people have lost track of what feedback is all about. The gun you purchased arrived quickly and was as advertised.....THEN SOME NUT thinks I should get a negative feedback because I didn't handle the unimportant nonsense quickly enough for them.
Its fine to watch your feedback. Its great that people are careful and like to check these things.....but if you are buying a gun and get what you paid for...that is enough.
Oh....one more thing you might not realize. Feedback left is not "over" once it is posted. You can go back and change what you left....change comments....and that option is available for a long, long time.
(This is a bit of a peeve of mine....sorry if I seem a little overboard.)
ADDENDUM: I would like to add a few thoughts about eBay's feedback system. I believe in it. As a seller, if a person sends me their good money in a timely fashion, I give them their deserved feedback upon receipt or when I ship. E-trading should be no different than having a retail establishment, which sadly, far too many of these so-called sellers don't have. When I hand a receipt or change to a person, a verbal "Thank you" is automatic. I hold in contempt sellers I deal with on eBay that request good feedback when I receive their merchandise although they have not left me any. Seems like they are scared that something they have sold to me is not what was listed. Nobody is so big or has enough feedback points that they cannot do the E-equivelent of a simple "Thank you". 'Nuff said.
I would be one of those buyers to leave you a less than perfect feedback score.
When my money is in YOUR hands, my job is done. I deserve appropriate feedback. Like you said, feedback CAN be changed.
If you don't "get it" then you have no sense of business then.
That is the typical "gun store" mentality.
Is there a course you guys take on how to be an *?
I see this all the time at local gun stores, and they wonder why you don't buy.
Feedback is important to me as a buyer and seller.
Brian
Once you have bought/sold a few things and have a good record I am comfortable dealing with you.
However, I do not give feedback for buying or selling unless the other person thinks it is important and I will gladly respond to the same feedback given to me. I only respond to feedback.
I have never in 8 years received a negative feedback but a couple times the old give me a partial refund for something very out of line on an as is item made me happy I did not give feedback quickly.
I have had people insist I give them feedback first and I simply suggest forgetting the feedback altogether.
Don't want me to respond to your feedback???
Sorry, either feedback first or get used to no feedback.
There is no rule saying feedback must be given and I have never gone against my word and will make sure i will not be black mailed over feedback.
Once my eBay account was closed down because someone hijacked it. They did not even try to steal money from PayPal they just hijacked my eBay name and advertised a bunch of cars obviously intending to sell them by collecting the money and having irate buyers then contact me looking for their cars which I had nothing to do with.
eBay caught it before they sold one so no harm but imagine my surprise when someone wanted to steal my good name!!!!
The surprise was I had a good name!!! LOL
Beware of having a good name!!!!!!!!
Wulfmann
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
I would be one of those buyers to leave you a less than perfect feedback score.
When my money is in YOUR hands, my job is done. I deserve appropriate feedback. Like you said, feedback CAN be changed.
If you don't "get it" then you have no sense of business then.
That is the way it should be handled. As a buyer, I am not leaving feedback until I get my feedback for the payment first. If I never get the feedback, I will never leave theirs.
Jon
Did you get your item?
Did it arrive in a decent amount of time?
This whole idea that someone could leave me a negative feedback just because I didn't POST A SILLY FEEDBACK when I got payment is a big bunch of crap. That is when I just want the whole stinking feedback system to GO AWAY. I had some moron leave me a neg. because "he paid too much for the Colt that he recieved" .....this is a PENNY AUCTION...with NO RESERVE...that had THIRTY PICTURES!!!!
If we are going to have feedback AT ALL it needs to have limitations.....ones that pertain to the transaction ONLY. Did you get the item you paid for? Did you get it quickly? Enough.....
I'd be happy if you could see how many people have simply bought from me. If every buyer showed up....even the ones that left NO FEEDBACK...you would see that I have many many more sales than it shows right now......
AND .....that a good many of the people who have purchased from me have come back and bought again. That is my goal. People to buy from me with confidence that is only achieved by treating people right and doing a good job. Not by some silly grading system.
...As a seller, once I recieve funds that clear, the buyer has done his part and it's time to leave the FB; as a buyer, once I recieve the item, it's time to leave the FB.
...Far too many sellers want to wait and see the FB they recieve from the buyer, pretty much holding the buyer hostage, it's played that way all the time...one reason I read the FB instead of just going by the "number" of neg/positives.
...The recent change to blocking the bidders names has stopped me from bidding...it's kinda like the Govt. "protecting" me for my own good, but that's their choice and I have the choice not to bid any longer...shame, I enjoyed buying here...[;)]
Personally, I can tell alot from the type of negative feedback that's posted. If a buyer posts factual negative feedback and it's answered by an outlandish attack on their parentage, family life or some such thing then as buyer I stay far away from that seller.
I don't think about feedback. It isn't one little part of what goes through my mind when I'm selling an item. If a NR buyer wants to bid on my gun that is selling for thousands of dollars....fine. When I get money...and an FFL....all I think about is getting the gun to the buyer and I can't wait to hear that they got it safely and they are happy. I don't look at feedback to learn these things.....I check my e-mail. That is all I ever do. Sometimes I get a reminder...."could you leave me feedback?" That is when I just go to the bulk feedback page and leave all of them that are pending. Sometimes I think about it....but not usually. The actual transaction is what I am concerned with.
That is simply the way I am.
No problems so far![;)]
I still feel that a seller holds a buyer hostage by holding feedback after a buyer has paid.
Good night and happy bidding!
I have bought on ebay and have only left 1 neutral feedback, I explained to seller why i left it. She shipped to wrong addy which was my old addy after i verified new addy. 1 week went by no package. Called she said it was shipped to my po box. I had to track it down. Other then her shipping mistake i had no problem with buying from her. She has never left me any feed back
Pardon me, but how could it be HER fault for shipping to an address that YOU left somewhere as your shipping address?
He responded by giving me an F.
We had to argue long and hard before he agreed that we'd just remove the feedback and neither of us say anything.
Yes, his feedback score was that important to him that an A bothered him.
I generally post feedback within a few days of shipping for sales or a few days of getting the item when buying. Sometimes I forget. If someone reminds me I'm happy to correct the oversight. But just as I don't give a store owner feedback every time I buy (Hey, Bob, a really great sale! Master that you are punching up the cash register. A+... stupid right?), same deal- I'll give you feedback if you want it, or if I think of it, but it isn't that important to me.