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FBI Won't Have Access to Gun Records

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
FBI Won't Have Access to Gun RecordsBy CHRISTOPHER NEWTON, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - The Justice Department (news - web sites) denied the FBI (news - web sites) access to its records to determine whether any of the 1,200 people detained after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks had bought guns, a spokeswoman confirmed Wednesday night. The refusal was made in October, as the FBI intensified its investigation into the backgrounds of hundreds of immigrants that were detained. Mindy Tucker, a spokeswoman for the Justice Department, said the FBI request to use gun records was considered and rejected after Justice officials studied case law. ``It was decided that it would have been improper use of the records,'' Tucker said Wednesday. The government's record database, called the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, is used to help prevent criminals and certain others from purchasing guns. It is a compilation of record checks performed when gun dealers send information to the FBI to find out if the potential buyer is prohibited from owning a gun. Those not allowed to own guns are felons, fugitives and some categories of foreigners. The records of the background checks are destroyed after 90 days, in keeping with statutes that prohibit the government from keeping permanent records on gun buyers. In October, FBI officials would have been able to access records from the weeks before the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon (news - web sites). ``The only approved use of the records is for audits, to ensure the system works,'' Tucker said. ``Once that determination was made, no more records were run.'' The New York Times, which first reported the Justice Department's decision in its online edition Wednesday evening, said the Treasury Department (news - web sites)'s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms asked the FBI to check a list of 186 names of detainees against the background check records. The FBI found that two of the detainees had been approved to buy guns. But before more records could be run, the Justice Department stopped the FBI from accessing the records to check on the detainees - a refusal that was repeated after high-level FBI officials asked for the matter to be reviewed again. The denial is in line with Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites)'s insistence that gun records not be used by the government. The Justice Department's policy on gun rights was articulated by Ashcroft last spring in a letter to the National Rifle Association. Ashcroft said the original intent of the Second Amendment ``unequivocally protects the right of individuals to keep and bear firearms.'' http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011206/pl/attacks_gun_records_2.html

Comments

  • cpilericpileri Member Posts: 447 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bravo! But why is there a database of records at all? That's illegal, isn't it? hmmm....
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree w/ Carl; I haven't looked at the damn Brady Bill in a long time, but my understanding was that the records were supposed to go 'poof' once an eligibility determination was made.
  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990
    edited November -1
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe that the Brady law staes the record of the check has to be destroyed "Immediately". I think it all depends on what the word "immediately"is.I have a question for anyone who has purchased more than one gun at a time: Do you have to fill out a Brady form for EACH gun you buy, or do you only fill out one form no matter how many guns you buy?. I have never bought more than one gun at a time, so I do not know the answer.
  • GreenLanternGreenLantern Member Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can bet if this was back in the Clinton administration the Justice Department would have handed the information over. Illegal or not!
  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554
    edited November -1
    Salzo, I was in my gun dealer asking him the question about buying more than one gun at a time and I picked up a copy of the Firearms Transaction Record .It has 4 lines on it for 4 different guns. But the dealer told me if you buy more than one gun per week from the same dealer they have to report it to the ATF. Not sure this is the real story but what I have been told, this guy hasn't steared me wrong yet. Anyone else know for sure?....OTO
  • drawndrawn Member Posts: 544
    edited November -1
    So What if the FBI gets into the records and finds they havn't been destroyed?
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