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Why you can't trust government

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited April 2002 in General Discussion
Why you can't trust government
Posted: March 20, 20021:00 a.m. Easternc 2002 WorldNetDaily.com I'll never understand people - especially Americans - who think that government somehow has a monopoly on truth and justice. In fact, the more we rely on government to find truth and secure justice, the more we see how corrupt, how hopeless it is in doing either. Take, for example, the government researchers who were caught planting false evidence of endangered species in national forests. The outrageous and deliberate fraud against the American people by representatives of the government was discovered when a U.S. Forest Service employee blew the whistle on five U.S. Fish and Wildlife and two Washington state researchers who planted lynx hairs in areas where the cats did not exist. At your expense, the researchers were conducting a four-year study of 57 forests in 16 states to determine the extent of endangered lynx habitat. But that's not what they were doing at all. This was not an objective, scientific study. It was an effort, on the taxpayer's dime, to create evidence to buffalo the taxpayer. Had the fraud not been exposed - and you can imagine how many similar ones are not - the findings of these rip-off artists would have been used to create sweeping new land restrictions against property owners, citizens who utilize the forests for recreation and those who make their living in the wilderness. As Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, said: "If they hadn't been caught, you might have seen entire forests shut down on a false premise." Again, it makes you wonder, how many times precisely this has happened before. So, these taxpayer-supported pseudo-researchers made their living for four years deliberately bamboozling the American people. How were they punished once they were caught? How did we make an example of them to discourage others from repeating this kind of fraud in the future? Which jailhouse are they residing in now? Are you sitting down? The perpetuators of this fraud were not charged with any criminal wrongdoing. The perpetuators of this fraud were not fired from their jobs. The perpetuators of this fraud were not disciplined. They kept their jobs and were simply reassigned to other projects - where, presumably, their eco-activism shrouded in the cloak of scientific research will be channeled into new efforts to shake down the taxpayer and maximize federal control of land and forests. In other words, there was no punishment whatsoever. The real lesson of the lynx debacle is simply be more careful not to get caught when you are defrauding the taxpayers and subverting the U.S. Constitution. For my money, not only should the researchers have been fired and criminally prosecuted, heads should have rolled at all levels of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service - from the top to the bottom. This fraud calls into question everything this outfit has done or will ever do. All the research it has ever presented is now suspect. All the research it might do in the future isn't worth the recycled, biodegradable paper it is written upon. The fraud also calls into question the fundamental principle of the Endangered Species Act. What is the purpose of this law? Is it really to protect wildlife? Or is there a bigger agenda? It seems clear the actions of these government activists were motivated by something more than a desire to preserve cats in a natural habitat in which they did not reside. Clearly, it's about establishing more federal control over more land. That was the goal. It remains the goal. The charade has been exposed. This fraud was only discovered by chance by a dedicated and ethical Forest Service whistleblower. But that agency, too, is responsible for more than its fair share of fraud and abuse. While the lynx scam got more of the headlines, the Forest Service was forced to admit that it has lied to Congress and the public about the number of visitors to national forests. The agency claimed 920 million visitors in 2000, while the real number was 209 million. Once again, the deceit was about money - bigger budgets, more control, larger bureaucracies, increased regulations and more restrictions on access by the people who pay for it all. So, please, don't tell me how we need the government to keep the private sector honest. We can always throw private rascals to the wolves when they violate the law. But the government rascals continue to get away with murder - and no one holds them accountable. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26894

Comments

  • Rafter-SRafter-S Member Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good post, Josey.
  • jetjet Member Posts: 543 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll bet the whistleblower gets "laid off"
  • ysacresysacres Member Posts: 294 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm really tired of my Goverment....I want a new one.
  • BlueTicBlueTic Member Posts: 4,072
    edited November -1
    Sending this one to Gov. Locke (WA State) and demanding a response. See if any of our Money grubbing officials have anything to say.....
    IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY RIGHTS - GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY (this includes politicians)
  • ysacresysacres Member Posts: 294 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You GO BlueticI know a smith in Clarkston who go's balistic when you say GOV GRY LOC, He'll drop your gun and get right in your face and tell ya why the guy's an Idiot. When I left I was more scared of Loc than Bin Ladin.
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    As if I needed another reason?
  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    Our government is nothing but a joke hiding a dictatorship and that joke is being played on the American citizens!We are all just sitting around waiting for the yet unannouced punch line. When it comes it is not going to be as funny as everyone thought!
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm with offeror on that! And how many more incidents never make it to the public view? Anyone naive enough to think that the exposed ones outnumber those kept quiet? OK, how about 10-90 split? My unscientific guess is 1-99 at best.
  • BlueTicBlueTic Member Posts: 4,072
    edited November -1
    Well - I received a response today. My E-mail was forwarded to the Department Of Fish And Wildlife. This is their response:Dear (Me),The Governor's office has forwarded your e-mail concerning the recent submittal of unauthorized control samples as part of the U.S. Forest Service national lynx survey to the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW).The initial media reports claiming that lynx hair samples were deliberately 'planted' by U.S. Forest Service (USFS),U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS), and Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) biologists to expand the range of this state and federally listed threatened species for the purpose of impacting land use management decisions were untrue. In fact, the stories were contrary to an initial independent third party investigation contracted by USFS which determined that biologists for all three agencies out of a common concern for the ability of the lab to correctly identify lynx and other cat species using DNA from hair. Subsequently, the Inspector General's Office of the U.S. Department of Interior, and the federal General Accounting Office have conducted follow-up investigations with similar findings. While it is clear that these employees failed to follow proper scientific protocol in providing control samples to the genetics laboratory at the University of Montana, the investigation concluded that the individuals acted without malice and with no intent of expanding the range of an endangered species for restricting land use and practices.Given these initial and subsequent findings, which the WDFW substantiated in our own review of the incident, our actions reguarding our employees were justified. Specifically, the WDFW biologists were removed from the lynx investigation, corrective interviews were conducted by the Assistant Director of the Wildlife Program, and letters were placed in their permanent personnel files. Work plans have been modified for these employees, and both employees recently attended mandatory training on proper scientific protocols.If there are any new findings associated with the final pending U.S. Department of Agriculture's investigation, then we will consider them at that time. Thank you for expressing your concerns. Additional information on this subject may be found on our website at www.wa.gov/wdfw/. SincerelySteve Pozzanghera, Deputy Assistant DirectorWildlife Programcc: Tracie Schaefer, Governor's OfficeWhat do you guys see here - I read that the biologists actually did send in lynx hair samples and would have gotten away with their scam, had not somebody turned them in. Of course they were just trying to test the laboratory. How are you going to prove otherwise. I must agree that those GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES got away with this crap, and are still in a position to screw us again - backed by several "investigations" - one being "independant" mind you. Can you say "Let's let the Fox watch the chickens"?My next question (just off the top) is - how many samples of lynx hairs were sent in to the lab, and how were they labled? If there was just one - OK. But what is the exact amount and where did they come from?
    IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY RIGHTS - GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY (this includes politicians)
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