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Evacuation shelter

Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
edited August 2017 in General Discussion
I have been reading news stories about the evacuation shelters in and around Houston TX.

It seems some of them are now flooding and they are having to move those folks out.

Some of the pictures show mounds of clothes and other stuff people have donated.

But there is one thing that kind of disturbs me. They are searching everyone who wants to stay in the shelter. There are signs that say No Weapons No Alcohol.

So I guess if you are a legally armed person you cannot go into the evacuation shelters.


It seems to me that during any Disaster the Forces in charge immediately try to disarm the populace.

They did it here in NC twice during flooding, Katrina, Rita and now Harvey.

The title of this was "an evacuee is patted down and processed"
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I am not so sure I want to be processed[xx(]


I understand the need to make sure people are not killing each other or doing drugs but where is the happy medium?

I don't know that is why I am asking you
RLTW

Comments

  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My house my rules. Shelters are prone to violence.
  • ChrisStreettChrisStreett Member Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...guess I'd just have to ride things out in the truck on the parking lot. Under conditions like those I'd never be unarmed, never.
    "...dying ain't much of a living boy"-Josey Wales
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Folks can get edgy in shelters. Especially during catastrophic situations. Drugs and guns can be a problem.
    "What is truth?'
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisStreett
    ...guess I'd just have to ride things out in the truck on the parking lot. Under conditions like those I'd never be unarmed, never.


    I believe I would be in the same boat.

    The last place I want to be unarmed is in a disaster area, where the law is sketchy and gangs are wandering around looting.


    I have never evacuated an area or went to a shelter.

    But I have been in many refugee camps and violence is very prevalent in those camps.
    RLTW

  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Every house I've ever built or bought was on high ground where it would take rains of biblical proportions to reach. If you don't plan ahead you end up homeless when the floods come.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mag00
    My house my rules. Shelters are prone to violence.


    OK for a voluntary evacuation. What does one do for the current mandatory evacuations?
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    Every house I've ever built or bought was on high ground where it would take rains of biblical proportions to reach. If you don't plan ahead you end up homeless when the floods come.




    I agree I always look for high ground. I live by a large lake but I am on the 3rd highest piece of ground in the county, it would have to flood 40 feet to even come close to my house.

    I don't plan on evacuating for anything.

    But my concern is how quick the powers that be suspend your constitutional rights in face of troubles.

    Like I said, here in NC they have done it twice in the last 10 years or so. They call it a disaster and make the area a State of Emergency
    Then the 1st thing that is stated is no CC or weapons.

    It just shows how much they trust you. They kiss your * to get your vote, they take your money to get elected and once there the first thing they do is become Royalty and loose all trust in their constituents.
    RLTW

  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,041 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ask the people in the N.O. dome when Katrina hit. Way I understand it, no checks and not many if any police and it was robbery, murder and rapes in there.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    buying our lake place in eastern Kansas was safe i figured because it was on high ground about 40 ft+ above normal pool...however about 6-7 years ago there was rain that started on Thursday noon when we got there and continued thru Sunday when we gave up and left....we watched the lake visibly rise and it came up 36' ft in 48 hours....now that made a real lake out of it...we took pics...went to check the spillway and water level with limbs was banging the top of the flood gates when they opened them...big sheets of foam 4-5 ft thick swirling on the spillway and they evacuated one small town a few miles from the dam
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    when the Katrina survivors went into the super dome their rape robbery and murder because they didnt do this , if i had to evacuate my guns would go with me and i would never consider a shelter anyway, i would feel safer under an underpass before i went into one of those even armed
  • Tech141Tech141 Member Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That Cop's uniform could clothe a family of 4.

    Are there NO standards for LE any more?
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tech141
    That Cop's uniform could clothe a family of 4.

    Are there NO standards for LE any more?





    he looks like a rent a cop, with his face all up in that armpit
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by mag00
    My house my rules. Shelters are prone to violence.


    OK for a voluntary evacuation. What does one do for the current mandatory evacuations?


    It was discussed on Fox last night that the evacuations are not mandatory. They are not forcefully making people leave their homes. Even one of the reporters in one of the neighborhoods that was with the Houston Police said that they were not forcing people to leave, they'd implore them to go, but if they wanted to stay the cops left them.


    At some point the security of the facility and the victims there in becomes paramount. With as many gang members are likely mixing in that group of survivors I wouldn't want a gang shoot out in their either. As far as I am concerned the shelters should be for women, children and the elderly. the fit, able men should be out helping their community.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tech141
    That Cop's uniform could clothe a family of 4.

    Are there NO standards for LE any more?


    And yet he's still there, doing his part while others are saving their own *.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    Every house I've ever built or bought was on high ground where it would take rains of biblical proportions to reach. If you don't plan ahead you end up homeless when the floods come.



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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    I won't disarm.

    "Mandatory" evacuation is a misnomer. All it means is that we, the police, fire, rescue people are also pulling out and we won't be available for you if you need us.

    I helped at a local shelter for evacuees from either Ike or Rita. They were all from Texas. We did ask them to leave weapons in their vehicles, but we didn't pat anyone down. They were only here for one night and gone.

    I won't disarm.
  • remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Their house their rules, nobody's forcing you to stay there.
  • 47studebaker47studebaker Member Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mag00
    My house my rules. Shelters are prone to violence.


    and the mentally ill.
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