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FFL License?

RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
How much does it cost to get a FFL license just to have guns shipped directly to my house? Not for Resale.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't believe you can get an FFL for personal use. It must be for a business. All of the rules and regulations and record-keeping would make this too much of a hassle if it was just for personal use. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you have to have a store-front or a very large sign on your front yard indicating that you are operating a firearms business there. Also, I believe that the ATF can come and inspect your books and your firearms whenever they please. However, you can get a C&R license by which firearms that qualify as Curios and Relics can be shipped to your home. I'm still waiting for my application.[This message has been edited by idsman75 (edited 01-21-2002).]
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  • madminutemadminute Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, there are provisions in the qualifying process which prevent just anyone from having an FFL. I have one because I handle weapons for motion pictures, therefore its my business. You do have to be in a gun or gun related business to be approved, and the ATF can and will inspect your place of business prior to approval.
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ids:BATF just says that you have to be in it "for profit". As far as location, BATF doesn't really care. I myself am a home-based dealer. As far as face-to-face sales go, I deal strictly to friends and family. All my other sales are done here on GB. That way, I don't have to worry about strangers being in my home buying firearms. The home-based business laws are determined strictly by your city and/or county, not by BATF. Keep in mind however, that if you're a renter, BATF WILL call your landlord/property owner to make them aware that you are selling firearms out of your residence. They will phrase it in the worst possible way.For example, I almost ended up sueing the fools for defamation of character. When they couldn't convince my landlord that I was a low-life gun nut, they called the city and county and politely let them know that it would be in the city's best interest NOT to grant me a business license, since I most likely would be selling firearms to felons and terrorists. (They finished up my paperwork immediately after 9/11 when emotions were high.)Anyhow, I'm moving into a store front as soon as my pool and spa store sells. That way I can actually make a living off of the damn thing!
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The reason I was asking about an FFL license is after paying for all the extras on auctions, the deal I made was no longer a deal.Paying shipping,background check and especially the fee an FFL holder wants to charge me.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are a few pool and spa stores out this way (Combined Pool and Spa). I never understood how they made a profit from over-priced pool tables and minimal selections on spas. The one up in Sioux Falls also sells motorcycles in their mall store. Strange.I suppose the BATF will be calling the landlords when I submit my C&R application. That's perfectly fine. I have the apartment managers wrapped around my little finger and they constantly try to flirt with me when I drop by. The head manager is married to an avid hunter and she loves venison. I don't see it being a problem.
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  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    Ruger--I'm really kinda curious as to what fees you are paying and how much? And what is this "Backround check" nonsense? Is your FFL CHARGING you to do an Instacheck? (As he is required by law to do in order to fill out the transfer paperwork?)Shipping, FFL transfer fee I understand, but a "Backround Check"? IS that a local law peculier to your area?
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Matt45 Background check is the old three day waiting period, even though I have a License to carry. To make sure I'm not a criminal.All my guns wre bought in PA. and I've never bought anything but ammo off the Internet. One gun store wanted 25.00 fee plus transfer fee? And 5.00 background check.Plus sales taxI'm new to this and Florida.
    Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself![This message has been edited by RugerNiner (edited 01-22-2002).]
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  • madminutemadminute Member Posts: 68 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    How the ATF guys treat new applicants for FFLs seems to vary from region to region. here in florida, they used to send out an agent to check out the location and were very concerned about security issues. But I must say that I NEVER have had a bad experience with an ATF representative, nor have I ever been denied a license, including both low and high explosives...Of course, this may have to do with a squeaky clean criminal record (I'm not in ANY arrest database..never been arrested) and they really seem to warm up to ex-military types, especially those from combat units trained in extremely heavy weapons (tanks).....But they don't like licensing private homes as dealers. Even though they do it all the time.
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ids:A lot of stores are doing that nowadays. There just isn't any profit in that business anymore, unless you install inground pools. Even then, you break even a lot of the time just due to unforseen problems on the job site. My store deals pretty much just with chemicals. We still sell big ticket stuff like pools and fancy BBQ's, but they make up only 10% or so of our gross. I'm just fed up with the business itself. It landed in my lap after my father in law died. It does well, but I'm just sick of doing water tests and explaining chlorine consumption to the sheeple. If I'm going to have the headaches of a small business, it might as well be a small business that I enjoy. I feel bad for people stuck in that line of work.Motorcycles. Sheesh. Sheer desperation.
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