Portland POLL.Passengers carry Guns ?

Highball

http://www.kxl.com/default.asp Go vote in this poll...show where you place YOUR trust.....Presently running 70%,allow passengers to carry guns...great stuff,since I trust my fellow citizens more then the fedgov controls coming out of this... [This message has been edited by Highball (edited 09-18-2001).]

Highball

The poll is still running 55% FOR...45 % Aganist. I guess,from the lack of response,you'all don't trust your fellow citizen's,hey ? Guns for me,but watch that fellow over there ? From The Proficient Pilot II, by Barry Schiff (PressurizationThere probably are more absurd misconceptions about aircraft pressurization than about any other aircraft system. Consider, for example, the popular belief that a bullet shot through a pressurized fuselage will cause explosive decompression and loss of aircraft control. This is, after all, what happened to * Galore and James Bond in Goldfinger when a stray bullet went through the cabin wall of their Lockheed Jetstar. Not only did they experience explosive decompression, but the aircraft went into a spin, forcing * and James to parachute to safety. Totally ridiculous, but it made for good drama. And how about the myth perpetuated by the motion picture Airport '77? After the Boeing 747 came to rest at the bottom of the Caribbean, the intrepid captain (Jack Lemmon) allayed his passengers' fear of drowning by proclaiming authoritatively, "Don't worry, folks; this airplane is pressurized!" Apparently pacified, the naive passengers headed for the piano bar to sip martinis until rescued. Someone should have nominated this movie for the "Best Comedy of the Year" award. ...Pressurizing an aircraft cabin (the pressure vessel) is similar to pumping air into a tire that has a controllable leak. In the case of piston-powered aircraft, pressurizing air is provided by the engine turbochargers. The "leak" consists of one or more outflow valves at the rear of the cabin. These valves allow air to escape continuously. This prevents excessive pressure from causing structural damage and provides an exit for venting stale air overboard. Pressurization is maintained by pumping in as much air as is allowed to escape. Many believe that cabin pressure is determined by varying the amount of air pumped into the aircraft. Not so. The flow of incoming air is approximately constant. Cabin pressure is determined by the outflow valves, which modulate automatically to vary the amount of air flowing overboard and maintain the selected degree of pressurization. In effect, the cabin always has at least one open "hole." The addition of a bullet hole, therefore, would have no effect on cabin pressure. The outflow valve(s) would compensate by closing slightly and automatically to maintain a constant flow of air through the cabin. Larger holes in the structure, however, may result in depressurization. In the case of jetliners, the ouflow valves are so large that the loss of an entire cabin window may not affect cabin pressure significantly. (It would not be pleasant, however, to be seated next to such a window.) Barry Schiff, with 20,000 hours in more than 225 types of aircraft, has achieved worldwide recognition for his aviation accomplishments. A verteran captain with Trans World Airlines, currently flying the Lockheed 1011, he is a contributing editor of AOPA Pilot and an award-winning author of eight books and more than 500 articles. ? 1987 [This message has been edited by Highball (edited 09-19-2001).]

HerbyJr

Hey Highball,Maybe if there were armed citizens on the planes, more of them would have gone down in fields or not gone down at all(assuming all the people didn't get sucked out of the cabin due to the de-pressurization caused by stray bullets hehe). Besides, there are always frangibles right?H.[This message has been edited by HerbyJr (edited 09-19-2001).]

Evil ATF

Wouldn't Glaser Safety Slugs work well on a plane, assuming you miss the tango?If not, I'm sure a stewardess could check everyone's weapon prior to takeoff to make sure they were loaded with approved FAA rounds! :-)By the way, I got the poll up to 55.2% in favor of. I'm a Pacific Northwest native, so this is personal!VOTE!