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Poor little guy
bigdaddyjunior
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My 2.7 yr old grandson who now lives here, has been having a rough time this week. Started as a bug bite looking spot on his butt cheek and quickly became a golf ball sized subdural infectious mass. The pressure must have been intense and extremely painful. He cried like nothing I'd ever heard. Sometimes he screamed so high and loud it went beyond my hearing range, as if he were lip-synching, but it went directly into my brain and burned like micro-waves. We took him into the ER where they diagnosed MRCRS? and cut it open to drain. They said he was the 4th toddler with exactly the same thing to come in that day. Apparently the kids of this new generation are unable to handle contacting this bacteria without a reaction like his.
Went back today for the two day follow-up and found 3 more kids in-bound for MRCRS welts on the backside. Lots of screaming kids. He wasn't one today. I explained to him how pain likes noise and will grow if you scream when it first comes to bite you. But, if you stay still and quite he will stop biting you and go look for a kid who will scream. He tried it and decided it must be true since the pain left quickly and never got too bad. I bought him a happy meal and a sundae for being a tough guy and for not hurting my ears.
Went back today for the two day follow-up and found 3 more kids in-bound for MRCRS welts on the backside. Lots of screaming kids. He wasn't one today. I explained to him how pain likes noise and will grow if you scream when it first comes to bite you. But, if you stay still and quite he will stop biting you and go look for a kid who will scream. He tried it and decided it must be true since the pain left quickly and never got too bad. I bought him a happy meal and a sundae for being a tough guy and for not hurting my ears.
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http://www.cdc.gov/mrsa/
www.mayoclinic.com/health/mrsa/DS00735
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/staph-infections/DS00973
MRSA should not be taken lightky and it is not something that just targets toddlers. It is bad stuff to any and all.
It is not a matter of deficiencies in the immune systems of people ... so much as the fact that it is a super virulent super bacerial infection that is immune to our standard and many of our strongest antibiotics.
I have not as yet read anything, anywhere, ever indicating that there is anything wrong with the youth of today, wherein they get MRSA due to any actual veracity to . . .
QUOTE: "Apparently the kids of this new generation are unable to handle contacting this bacteria without a reaction like his."
I would believe at this point that the physican did not properly explain the situation.
Or there was a misunderstanding.
Or the physician is in error, or "covering", or privy to some mighty new information that has not touched me as yet and is nowhere on line or in my reference books!
Did they complete a culture of the exudate - the fluid drained.
IF, not ... I would want to know why not, that would then be quite bizarre. IF so keep a copy of the report.
You may want to think about where that child has been over the last " X " period of time.
My first suspicion would go along the lines of them all having been exposed to MRSA when they received their toddler immunizations. [?]
IF that be the case ... someone somewhere is using extremely shoddy technique ... definitely not "sterile" nor even "clean". [:(]
IF that is not the case, was your Grandson seen and treated by any medical personnel regarding the apparent spider bite? [?] [:(]
Whatever did or did not cause these infections ... be certain to call your State Health Department to provide them an official report.
IF, they do not jump on this with both feet immediately ... I would encourage you to contact and give a report to the Federal or US Center for Disease Control - CDC
I believe that physicians are encouraged, if not obligated, to report confirmed cases of MRSA.
[ Hospitals, long-term care facilities, State Psychiatric Hospitals, State prisons, are places that tend to harbor and spread the infection. ]
I'd be interested in hearing who, does what, how soon.
( JMHAHPO )
The many females in my home believe I am a heartless monster.
Do they realize that without the heartless monster they would likely not have a home to be in?
I know the feeling, it isn't just the females in my house, most of them like me, but some of the people at work tell me I can be a jerk. I just tell it like I see it, some people don't like to hear anything not coated in PC crap.
Poor little guy is right! I'd check to see where he might have gotten it, and take those folks to task. If it's widespread, there will definitely be MORE of it...
Good luck, little guy!
Both of the duty doctors at our two recent visits, said it was like wild fire among the pre-school daycare aged kids. They said even infants were being brought in regularly. 3 or 4 ER cases per day is what they said. That is in a hospital that serves maybe 30,000 people county wide.
Do you know if he has received a "vaccination" at that spot?
These vaccinations are getting very, very shady nowadays.
I would steer clear of vaccinating your kids.
Many have been shown to actually contain cancer-causing viruses among other things.
The same drug companies who make the vaccines also sell the drugs to treat whatever it is they infect the kids with.
If you think I'm joking you need to do some serious research.
Does anyone at least have a theory to why the latest generation does not have the immunity that most everyone else older has?
This is not necessarily true, there is a guy I bowl with that had it twice last year and he's at least 45 years old. I got it when I was 57. Like Alan Rushing stated it seems to be contacted a lot in hospital settings.
MRSA (Methicillin-Resistant Staph Aureus) Infection
http://www.cdc.gov/mrsa/
www.mayoclinic.com/health/mrsa/DS00735
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/staph-infections/DS00973
www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/understandin...
NOT to be taken lightly ... bad, bad, bad ... and believe me toddlers are not the only victims. It is bad to any and all.
I have not as yet read anything, anywhere, ever indicating that there is anything wrong with the youth of today, wherein they get MRSA due to any actual veracity to . . .
QUOTE: "Apparently the kids of this new generation are unable to handle contacting this bacteria without a reaction like his."
I would believe at this point that the physican did not properly explain the situation.
Or there was a misunderstanding.
Or the physician is in error, or covering, or privy to some mighty new information that has not touched me as yet!
Did they complete a culture of the exudate - the fluid drained.
IF, not ... I would want to know why not, that would then be quite bizarre. IF so keep a copy of the report.
You may want to think about where that child has been over the last " X " period of time.
My first suspicion would go along the lines of them all having been exposed to MRSA when they received their toddler immunizations. [?]
IF that be the case ... someone somewhere is using extremely shoddy technique ... definitely not "sterile" nor even "clean". [:(]
IF that is not the case, was your Grandson seen and treated by any medical personnel regarding the apparent spider bite? [?] [:(]
Whatever did or did not cause these infections ... be certain to call your State Health Department to provide them an official report.
They should be quite interested and should do a communicable disease investigation PRONTO.
IF, they do not jump on this with both feet immediately ... I would encourage you to contact and give a report to the Federal or US Center for Disease Control - CDC
I believe that physicians are encouraged, if not obligated, to report confirmed cases of MRSA.
[ Hospitals, long-term care facilities, State Psychiatric Hospitals, State prisons, are places that tend to harbor and spread the infection. ]
I'd be interested in hearing who, does what, how soon.
Disclaimer: I am not a medical physician. ( JMHAHPO )
That's how mine started with what appeared to be a Spider bite. It was like a pimple on the back of my leg.
Had two separate trips to the hospital one for 4 days the other for 6. It is the closets thing to death I've ever encountered.
quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
Does anyone at least have a theory to why the latest generation does not have the immunity that most everyone else older has?
This is not necessarily true, there is a guy I bowl with that had it twice last year and he's at least 45 years old. I got it when I was 57. Like Alan Rushing stated it seems to be contacted a lot in hospital settings.
I do wonder anymore, I have read that that a third of children born after 2000 will develop diabetes in their lifetime. I do understand that has a lot to do with weight issues, but we are also seeing significant increases with other health issues such as peanut allergies. My first guess for the increase of these problems comes down to the food we eat.
One theory is that the bacteria has either mutated enough to evade or be immune to the human antibodies to it or we are dealing with an imported version of the bacteria.
My other theory is that we are on the cusp of the result of over-population meltdown, hastened by the influx of third-world types (illegal aliens). This would result in the importation of newer or alternate strains of bacteria, viruses and parasites. Examples are the recent epidemic-sized outbreaks of head lice among young children and the surge of bedbug infestations in hotels and homes.
I have two immeidate theories:
One theory is that the bacteria has either mutated enough to evade or be immune to the human antibodies to it or we are dealing with an imported version of the bacteria.
My other theory is that we are on the cusp of the result of over-population meltdown, hastened by the influx of third-world types (illegal aliens). This would result in the importation of newer or alternate strains of bacteria, viruses and parasites. Examples are the recent epidemic-sized outbreaks of head lice among young children and the surge of bedbug infestations in hotels and homes.
I see where you are coming from but that theory assumes that none of this is engineered.
Cancer was nearly unheard of in the 1950's and earlier.
Now there are KIDS getting cancer at alarming rates.
Research has been done on these vaccines they pump into your kids and they have cancer-causing agents in them.
They are usually triggered by hormone changes as one ages but some kids with weaker immune systems or other existing issues will get it much sooner.
We're being drugged/inoculated with things by drug companies who claim to have the cure for that very thing they injected into you.
You really need to be careful about what you put into your bodies nowadays.
Even more important is that you stop letting your kids get inoculated.
That crap is poisoned.
DON'T GET THE FLU VACCINE EITHER.
That is simply untrue. It was there, just often undiagnosed as such, often listed as "a tumor".
The basic problem is widespread use of antibiotics, which has forced microbes that cause disease to mutate to resistant strains. We feed antibiotics to feedlot cattle to increase their weight, we wash our hands in antibiotic soap. For those of us who see too much government intrusion into our lives, this is ONE area where they haven't meddled enough.
Neal
Does anyone at least have a theory to why the latest generation does not have the immunity that most everyone else older has?
MRSA bacteria is "stronger" ie. immune to the standard fare of antibiotics.
The new generation of people are NOT "weaker".
Easy test ... go ahead and get that MRSA infection ... see what happens! If you survive, no sweat, report back to all of us how you beat it on your own with no medical intervention and no antibiological medications.
It is not that the newer folks are weaker. Of course folks that are already compromised have a much more difficult row to hoe. They are often the ones that experience the worst complications and mortalities most quickly.
No, it can't return at any time. MRSA is highly contagious, but hospital exposure is probably the greatest causal activity. Those with open wounds & lowered resistance are at greatest risk.
The basic problem is widespread use of antibiotics, which has forced microbes that cause disease to mutate to resistant strains. We feed antibiotics to feedlot cattle to increase their weight, we wash our hands in antibiotic soap. For those of us who see too much government intrusion into our lives, this is ONE area where they haven't meddled enough.
Neal
I generally agree with you on all of the above.
I lot of people do not realize that the antibiotics go down the sinks, etc. and into the sewer systems and eventually out to the seas.
Many bacterias individual "lifetime" is miniscule compaired to our own life expectancies.
Bacterias that mutate and survive exposure or bacterias that get exposed to lesser or watered down or diluted amounts of antibiotics can pass those attributes along to subsequent generations to create strains that are resistant to those antibiotics, etc.
Bacterias I'd imaging go through thousands of generaltions probably in less time than any of us were in High School.
A shorter regenerative lifetime works to bacterias benefit ... and to human beings detriment in this scenario. [:0] [:(] [B)]
It is always MRSA.
Cut them open and treat with one of the two common antibiotics for MRSA.
Always works unless they area diabetic or a smoker.
CP