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GLOCK 19C

pops401pops401 Member Posts: 616 ✭✭✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
What's GOOD/BAD.
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glock = Good I don't know anything about that model, just being a smarta$$.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Buy it, it's all good. When you get it, install an adjustable rear sight. It will give you an additional 1/2" in sight radius.
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  • smooth_operatorsmooth_operator Member Posts: 227 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glock 19c?I have a Glock 19 but have never seen or heard of a compensated model in a medium grame glock. Glocks are generally good guns, but as far as portings are concerned in pistols, there are some drawbacks.-Smooth
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you go with any of the Glock "C" models, you can't have night sights. That alone would keep me from buying a "C" model. I carried a Glock 23 for two years as my duty and CCW weapon. Never had a problem with the recoil and the night sights came in handy more than once. I sold it to my cousin and I now own a Springfield Armory Compact stainless 1911. Glock "C" guns are for little girls who like to shoot AR-15's. Get the Plain Jane Glock with FIXED night sights and don't look back.
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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994 ✭
    edited November -1
    I second Evil's motion.
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You know, I don't understand the whole night sight thing. How often are you guys shooting in complete darkness (which, in my opinion, is the only time night sights are very bright)? And, if you are, aren't you violating one of the 4 rules (know what's behind your target)?Also, once the muzzle flash occurs can you even see the night sights for a 2nd shot? Just my thoughts, I have never had to fire a pistol at night (except for fun).Also, what are the drawbacks of a compensated pistol except for the gases making the slide and sights dirty?
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  • pops401pops401 Member Posts: 616 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry EvilATF,must be my feminine side.I just can't quit.
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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994 ✭
    edited November -1
    Concealed,The possibility of firing your weapon at night - every midnight shift.Have I ever fired mine at night? Four times a year for qualification.Can you see them after the fisrt flash? Yes. Unless you have a compensated pistol (drawback).[This message has been edited by simonbs (edited 12-13-2001).]
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    G36:I thought the same thing, but after giving it some testing, found that "muzzle flash" really didn't do much on a regular Glock. I was able to see my night sights just fine, although everything else was a little blurry. The "C" models, however, blinded my * like you wouldn't believe!
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can buy an unported standard barrel which will eliminate the nighttime flash problem if that's an issue.
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  • Mark IIMark II Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the 19C is like my 23C, I'd say go for it. Unless you're a LEO and plan on carrying it for a duty weapon, the only time it would be fired at night is in your own home, where you should know where everything is.If I could find a 19C for a decent price, I'd get it. Or even a plain model 19 for that matter.
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    But why would you NEED to compensate a 9mm? The night sights would be a better investment.I'm sorry, but if you can't handle 9mm recoil in a Glock, buy a .380!
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  • Mark IIMark II Member Posts: 247 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would like a 19C for GSSF competition. I like the size and weight of my 23C, but I would like faster shot recovery. Hence, a 19 or 19C.
    "To meet with ill fortune is to meet with good fortune. To meet with submission is to meet an enemy."Mark_II@gunbroker.zzn.com
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  • M.OpaliskiM.Opaliski Member Posts: 244 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Night sights are a gimmick, I have always thought so and I always will. If you think you're going to use them in some confrontation you're mistaken and if you practice only for such a situation you're selling yourself short.Buy the compensated model if you want it, who cares what everyone else thinks about the purchase, it's your gun. I also agree with the idea of the non-comp drop in barrel for carry, $85 well spent and gives you the option to choose what you shoot on the range, compensated or not. You could take it a step farther and buy a Model 23c or 32c, you can get three guns out of one in doing so ... the .40, .357 and 9mm.Food for thought ...
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Matt:World renowned shooters rave about the use of sights in a confrontation instead of "point shooting". Hense, if you're shooting at night, one must SEE their sights to make use of them. Forgive me if I don't take the opinion of a guy my own age over that over some of the world's greats.
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  • M.OpaliskiM.Opaliski Member Posts: 244 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Forgive me if I place no value in the opinion of a world class shooter with a gaggle of Band Wagoneers in regards to self defense tactics because frankly, they don't know squat about what I might be faced with when it comes right down to it.For the record, I utilize two carry guns, one has night sights because they were standard equipment, the other, a J-Frame has practically no sights.
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Forgive me if I place no value in the opinion of a world class shooter with a gaggle of Band Wagoneers in regards to self defense tactics because frankly, they don't know squat about what I might be faced with when it comes right down to it."Matt, it all comes back to people's personal theories on self-defense. I feel that (quickly) aimed shots to center of mass if far better than blasting away and hoping that I hit something. With night sights you're able to line up your target in low-light or total darkness. With a compensator, you're sacrificing low-light accuracy for the ability to quickly throw a lot of lead at the target. I just don't see that your night sights versus compensator argument holds any water. Call me a Band Wagoneer if you must, but I'll take the advice of those that have "been there, done that, lived to tell about it" over classroom conjecture any day.
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  • M.OpaliskiM.Opaliski Member Posts: 244 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I not arguing for either night sights or a compensated barrel. What are you reading?The compensated barrel would be fine for range work is what I recall posting, with a drop in non comp barrel for carry."With night sights you're able to line up your target in low-light or total darkness."Just how in the hell do you see the target in total darkness?"I feel that (quickly) aimed shots to center of mass if far better ... "I definately agree with that, I never suggested taking unaimed shots. I am suggesting that if you rely solely on your sights you are at a greater risk of being a dead man in the event that you should ever be forced to draw in defense.
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Night sights are a gimmick, I have always thought so and I always will. If you think you're going to use them in some confrontation you're mistaken and if you practice only for such a situation you're selling yourself short."I guess I misread the above statement, Matt. You're right. I can see that you have NO bias towards night sights!"Just how in the hell do you see the target in total darkness?"I should have been more clear. "Total" darkness actually does not exist that I've been able to find. Ever walk into your house late at night with all the lights off and the blinds shut? Just stand in your doorway for a couple of seconds and VOILA!, you can see in total darkness.
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  • M.OpaliskiM.Opaliski Member Posts: 244 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I stand by that, I am not arguing for them. I am arguing against them.
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