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What I hate about guns in movies

jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
edited February 2002 in General Discussion
1. Bullets always spark in new movies. I have never seen a bullet spark upon impact, even hitting metal.2. Bullets richochet off of items like cars when they should punch through.3. The hero runs along a metal railing with the bad guy firing and every bullet hits the rail, none hitting the hero. The rail is about an inch wide.My pet peeves, any one have any?
"...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
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  • jdb123jdb123 Member Posts: 471 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yea i got one, guys who cannot realize its a MOVIE!
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  • KhegglieKhegglie Member Posts: 330 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hate it when Glocks make hammer cock sounds when anyone aims one at someone.
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Movie shotguns that blow holes in doors and walls big enough to crawl through. What would I give for such a gun?!!Movie cars that explode into flames upon being hit by small arms fire. I don't ever want to ride in one of those cars.Movie SMGs that seemingly never run dry.Movie "sniper" rifles that are carried in pieces in a briefcase, assembled at the crime scene, and shot, with perfect dead-on precision.Movie silencers, no bigger than a lawn mower muffler, that muffle the report of the gun to about that of a Daisy BB gun.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nunn Didn't you ever hear of a FORD PINTO?
    Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
    Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The crazed bad guy who is threatening to blow people's heads off, they're cowering in terror. Then one stubborn guy tries to stand up to him, and to prove to him he's serious the bad guy RACKS THE SLIDE. Oooooh! Proving that up until then, he was threatening everyone with no bullet in the chamber...
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Same way with a Pump-Shotgun.
    Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
    Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
    NRA Lifetime Benefactor Member.
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  • bwabwa Member Posts: 224 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I haven't seen any movies in years, but I recall that Eastwood's .44("Dirty Harry", "Magnum Force" -for all you youngsters out there) recoiled above his head and it had an odd muffled report. I fired one for the first time shortly after seeing Magnum Force and discovered just the opposite: the recoil was relatively mild but the report was quite pronounced.
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  • niklasalniklasal Member Posts: 776 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How about those revolvers with 15 shot capacities?
    NIKLASAL@hotmail.com
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    I repeat, for the record, my objection to an egregious error in Counter-Strike.The Half-Life computer game mod "Counter-Strike", is a fairly realistic (at least in terms of uniforms and weapons) first-person simulation of hostage taking and rescue from either the Terrorist or Counter-Terrorist role.Weapons include the M4, the Steyr AUG, the M249 Para and the FN P90, wherein lies the issue.Regardless of whoever said so, a 4 lb. submachine gun does not fire the .338 Lapua Magnum cartridge!!!
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  • Gordian BladeGordian Blade Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I already said this in another thread, but what the heck. I love it when a gun in the movies does something that is totally at odds with the laws of physics. My favorite is the 100 lb. woman who fires a handgun at the 250 lb. bad guy. The bad guy gets lifted off the floor by the impact and thrown through a window or over a railing. Meanwhile, the woman reacts as if she's just fired a BB gun.
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  • k.stanonikk.stanonik Member Posts: 2,109 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    as far as cars that blow up dont forget the pacer
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah, I remember somebody once pointing out that a law of physics says that "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction," meaning that if a guy was really lifted off the floor and blown through a window by a shotgun blast, the shooter would be lifted off the floor and blown through the opposite window by the same discharge. RugerNiner: ABC's Peter Jennings once hosted a 'news special' on guns. At one moment in the show he picks up a shotgun and says, "people have been known to turn and run when they hear THIS sound!" Then he tried to pump the action, but it didn't move. He strained, but no pump. He looked a little embarrassed, put the gun down and moved on. Obviously, he had practiced pumping the shotgun before the show, and didn't realize YOU HAVE TO PULL THE TRIGGER before you can pump it again! Tell us all about guns, Peter...I think I've seen movies in which actors actually rack the slide TWICE on a gun to threaten or scare his hostages -- without a round being ejected EITHER time. Dramatic, but double-dumb.The latest bit of looniness is actors holding their pistols sideways because, apparently, they think it looks cool. And how many times have you seen an actor's finger resting firmly on the trigger while creeping around? I think I've even seen Steven Seagal make that booboo. Then there's the TV episode I saw where everyone seemed concerned about whether the safety was off on the revolver.
    "The 2nd Amendment is about defense, not hunting. Long live the gun shows, and reasonable access to FFLs. Join the NRA -- I'm a Life Member."[This message has been edited by offeror (edited 02-13-2002).]
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  • DENWADENWA Member Posts: 390 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Love the old westerns. Hate when they are pinned in the shootout and can fire hundreds of rounds. Especially the double barrel shotguns.Where are all of these extra rounds located?And how they can be shot at ton of times and still move and walk and fight.
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  • DENWADENWA Member Posts: 390 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Love the old westerns. Hate when they are pinned in the shootout and can fire hundreds of rounds. Especially the double barrel shotguns.Where are all of these extra rounds located?And how they can be shot at ton of times and still move and walk and fight.
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hiding behind bales of hay in a gunfight, and they stop the bullets. Ditto for 55-gallon drums. And, despite how much I love the movie, I still wonder how Val Kilmer got that double-barrel to fire 3 times at the OK Corral in "Tombstone".Good article in the new American Rifleman about TV guns, never knew Chuck Connors actually DID fire those rounds that fast in the opening of "The Rifleman". Had a screw through the lever that tripped the trigger upon closing. Check it out!
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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    How about how the good guy can hit anything while on the run, tumbling and all sorts of contortions with a handgun and the bad guy can't hit a still target with a full auto.
    AlleninAlaska
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  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Watched an episode of "Combat" the other night on cable. It seems that Cage is the only one who reloads his M-1 after 8 rounds, Kirby never has to put a new clip in his BAR and Sgt. Saunders sprays a lot of lead for not. I'm being critical about this good old show. How about the A-Team - with tens of thousands of rounds fired did they ever hit anything? If they didn't want to show someone being shot or killed atleast they could wing or shoot the guns out of the bad guys' hands like the Lone Ranger and Roy Rogers. Did you ever notice in many TV shows and movies when staring down the barrel of the good or bad guy's revolver there are no bullets in the cylinder? Racking a shotgun and chambering a round in other weapons when confronting the opposition is really getting old, but I guess for most audiences who know very little or nothing about firearms it is pretty cool.
    Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.
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  • sodbustersodbuster Member Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the movie "Black Hawk Down" there is a scene where a machine gun has a close up of it showing the links full of crimped nose blank ammo. O.K ,,I'd expect this on the "A" team or Walker Texas Ranger,,but this was a big bucks film,,,,,I did think it was a pretty cool movie.
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  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sodbuster,Maybe its just me, but I wouldn't want anything REMOTELY resembling real ammo anywhere near the set of a movie like black hawk down.
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  • Gene B.Gene B. Member Posts: 892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    in the movie cliff hanger when this guy is shooting a mp5 on full auto, and the bullets are hitting the snow and are sparking!
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  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    In Saving Private Ryan when they are setting up to ambush the German column moving in to town, the one guy- the chicken- has a belt of .30 ammo on his shoulders and neck. The primers are missing.
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of my favorites (don't see it much anymore with all the semi and full auto stuff) was the revolver with the supressor that when fired, went "poof". Yeah! Right!I watched one that had a guy firing a .44 magnum in each hand...absolutely NO recoil.Another is the gunfight where there's a guy standing about 3 feet behind and to the side of another guy and firing his weapon. The guy in front doesn't even flinch when this weapon goes off ABOUT A FOOT from his ear.Mudge the critic
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • sodbustersodbuster Member Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I do agree with you supermonkey on the live ammo, but would it be feasible so substitute dummy rounds that look like real ammo in the links for the closeups?? He wasn't firing during the close up,,,not a big deal,,,super cool movie,,,,
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  • GunHawkeGunHawke Member Posts: 576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For Timberbeast....I have seen as many goofups as anyone, same with my favorite movie Tombstone. BUT...the real boo-boo here is poor or undefined film editing. What you are suppose to be seeing is two "instantaneous" film shots of "Doc" firing once but from two different angles.I know, who cares....but until I figured it out it was really toooooo obvious a flub.
    "They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull a trigger. I won't!" J.B. Books
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  • GunHawkeGunHawke Member Posts: 576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For Timberbeast....I have seen as many goofups as anyone, same with my favorite movie Tombstone. BUT...the real boo-boo here is poor or undefined film editing. What you are suppose to be seeing is two "instantaneous" film shots of "Doc" firing once but from two different angles.I know, who cares....but until I figured it out it was really toooooo obvious a flub.
    "They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull a trigger. I won't!" J.B. Books
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  • gap1916gap1916 Member Posts: 4,977
    edited November -1
    If it waent for the movie Gun the Duke would have dies in every one of his westerns. We just can not have that.
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  • jastrjastr Member Posts: 463 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I felt that the movie Enemy At The gates.. did snipers, and guns in the movies some justice. Also in saving private ryan ..Toms hanks is shown packing his clip against the butt of his hand..
    lets all be responsible! shoot a criminal!
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Second Rambo flick, Stallone goes into an office toting an M60 & a belt of ammo, shoots a hundreds of rounds. You see him carrying bulleted ammo, but while the shooting goes on, the camera cuts to the pile of brass *blanks* piling up on the floor. And how about Arnold firing a few bajillion rounds out of the mini-gatling in Terminator II? No more recoil than a squirt gun! The two films I give high marks to for accuracy in the way the firearms are used are "Red Dawn" (sorry, Beach) and "The Wind and the Lion."
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  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of my favorites is when they rack the slide of a pistol, aim it at someone, and cock the hammer back with their thumb for added emphasis.
    Don't worry about the bullet with your name on it, worry about the fragmentation grenade addressed 'To Occupant'.
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Iconoclast...you are still batting .500 and that would make you a Hall of Famer in baseball!! Beach
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Beach - *only* .500??? When I listed my favorite war flicks, I believe I batted 1.000 according to a former Navy guy I know. I didn't list this one, as I recall . . . .
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Then there is all the firing of guns from inside a car, or people shooting each other in cars, big bores, full autos, shotguns, without anyone showing a sign of ear pain. There's a shot in one movie of a fellow firing his rifle through the cab windows of his pickup while his passenger sits and watches. I think I've only ever seen anybody indicate ear pain once, maybe twice in a movie when a gun went off next to their ear.
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  • Master7thSonMaster7thSon Member Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did anyone see that special on TV about drugs
    showed the LEO had confiscated an SKS which he identified as an "AK-TYPE ASSULT WEAPON"----then commenced to give a speech on why this was nothing bu6t a man killer and could serve absolutly no sporting purpose whatsoever
    blah----blah---blah
    yeesh!---Am i the only one left who thouroughly enjoys popping off a couple hundred rounds in plinking???
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    How much faster does it make the bullets go when the cowboy, at full gallup on horseback, throws the gun out in front of him to shoot?
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  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    Oh yeah- when artillery fires in civil war movies, the gun should roll back against it's wheels. It doesn't, showing they are just shooting a fairly light blank powder charge.
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
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  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    Oh yeah- when artillery fires in civil war movies, the gun should roll back against it's wheels. It doesn't, showing they are just shooting a fairly light blank powder charge.
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How about checking the rounds in a Revolver, then flipping it one hand to close it.
    Remember...Terrorist are attacking Civilians; Not the Government. Protect Yourself!
    Keep your Powder dry and your Musket well oiled.
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gunhawke, I'll have to watch it for the thousandth time, so I can check out that edit, I never thought of that!!Hey, how about Mel Gibson shooting the smiley face in Lethal Weapon, and flinching HEAVILY on each shot!! Yep, that was believable!! Heh Heh.
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  • GunHawkeGunHawke Member Posts: 576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Timberbeast...Mel shoots that perfect smiley face and then fails to do any damage to a 6-passenger helocopter..reloading besides!!
    "They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull a trigger. I won't!" J.B. Books
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  • chappsynychappsyny Member Posts: 3,381 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    At least those movies show guns in them. Did anyone see "The Rage: Carrie II?" I saw it about a year ago and there's one scene that still bugs the stuffing out of me. There was a house party going on and the main female charicter was killing everyone... so some kids break into thier old mans' study and what do they find but a gun rack full of spear guns (like for SCUBA diving). I was flabergasted at how retarded the whole thing seemed. God forbid someone show a gun in a modern teen movie. That's my pet peve.
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