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Tax Tax

sheepdipsheepdip Member Posts: 3,124
edited August 2003 in General Discussion
Taxes

Accounts Receivable Tax

Building Permit Tax

Capital Gains Tax

CDL license Tax

Cigarette Tax

Corporate Income Tax

Court Fines (indirect taxes)

Dog License Tax

Federal Income Tax

Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)

Fishing License Tax

Food License Tax

Fuel permit tax

Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)

Hunting License Tax

Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)

Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)

IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

Liquor Tax

Local Income Tax

Luxury Taxes

Marriage License Tax

Medicare Tax

Property Tax

Real Estate Tax

Septic Permit Tax

Service Charge Taxes

Social Security Tax

Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)

Sales Taxes

Recreational Vehicle Tax

Road Toll Booth Taxes

School Tax

State Income Tax

State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)

Telephone federal excise tax

Telephone federal universal service fee tax

Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes

Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax

Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax

Telephone state and local tax

Telephone usage charge tax

Toll Bridge Taxes

Toll Tunnel Taxes

Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)

Trailer registration tax

Utility Taxes

Vehicle License Registration Tax

Vehicle Sales Tax

Watercraft registration Tax

Well Permit Tax

Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was
the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the
largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What the hell happened?


dipit,dipit,dipit!

Comments

  • rldowns3rldowns3 Member Posts: 6,096
    edited November -1
    Political greed.

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  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good question.

    Politicians are like diapers, every so often you need to change them, for obvious reasons.
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The notion that we had no national debt 100 years ago is pure nonsense; The public (national debt) in the year 1900 stood at $1.2 billion, or about $18 per American. The source for this is right from the Bureau of Public Debt, US Treasury Department. In the year 1903 this country was FAR from the most prosperous on earth since the major European powers had industrialized decades before this time. It would not be until after WWI that we leaped into the lead among the worlds induststrial powers. Most of the nations workers 100 years ago were involved in agraculture and factory jobs were mostly low paying for unskilled or semi skilled workers. The middle class did not really exist in 1903. It would take the automobile and Henry Ford to enable factory workers to even begin to purchase the very items which they produced and this was still over 20 years away. Henry Ford really developed the middle class here in America. I don't have any staistics on hand but I'd like a source for the absense of state income tax, local income tax, or property taxes in 1903. Are you sure that not one of the 48 states taxed its citizens income for these items 100 years ago?

    Mark T. Christian
  • powdersmokepowdersmoke Member Posts: 3,241
    edited November -1
    We live in a Democratic Republic and the people found they could vote themselves programs to make their lives easier. They forgot we had to pay for them.

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    When you wrestle a 'gator, there ain't no good end!!

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  • kgnovumkgnovum Member Posts: 594 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm glad you pointed this out. I'm copying the list and will pass it around! And if you are a business owner there are even more. It cost a TON just to open the doors of a business - BEFORE - you make your first dollar. Realy TOUGH to make it with just one partner working these days...


    Ken Gibbs
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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It appears that quite a few of those taxes did not exist 100 years ago because the items which have a current tax simply did not exist in 1903 (RV taxes for example). I know full well that traffic fines have existed in major American cites long before 1903. You could be sited for careless opertion of an animal powered vehicle (horse and carriage) on city streets back then the same way you can be sited for careless operation of a motor vehicle today. No liquor taxes? Come on...has anyone ever heard of the Whiskey Rebellion? "Revenuers" spent months up in the hills getting shot at by moonshiners running illegal stills and not paying their taxes long before 1903. Tolls for bridges, tunnels, turnpikes, and canals have been with us since day one and are still here today. Who writes this stuff, puts it out on the web, and why do people actually believe it?

    Mark T. Christian
  • nitrouznitrouz Member Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Who writes this stuff, puts it out on the web, and why do people actually believe it?"

    Mark, you do not think State and Federal Govts. are receiving much more taxes than 100 years ago?

    I think they are...and wasting every penny of it.

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    "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
    - Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The subject of that article Nitro was that those taxes did NOT EXIST in the United States prior to 100 years ago. The subject was NOT whether or not there was an increase in the rate of those taxes. The tax rates may well be (no doubt are) higher...even too high...but that was not the topic under discussion.

    Mark T. Christian
  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Mark - Traffic fines are not taxes. Traffic fines may well have been turned into revenue stream by corrupt local politicians, but fines are not a taxes.

    Boomer

    "Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as it is by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed."NRA Life Member
  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    Originally posted by powdersmoke
    We live in a Democratic Republic and the people found they could vote themselves programs to make their lives easier. They forgot we had to pay for them.

    And don't forget them dang reps.vting themselves raises,and loopholes so they don't pay the taxes we do and... But I agree,everyone wnats what they want and they want it now.I am reminded of "Charlie Browns Chrismas"when I think it was Sally?,that said"all I want is whats coming to me,All I want is my fair share"...Everyone wants their "entitlements" and their cushy lifestyle,no one wants to work hard and pay for it. L.H.
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    An excellent point Boomerang. I see that a number of "taxes" listed are actually user fees: hunting, drivers, dog, and marriage licenses along with the tolls I mentioned previously.

    Mark T. Christian
  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Mark - Yeah but!!! Apparently your car tags in California have turned into tax. You know that although "user fees" are named appropriately, I still consider them taxes. An example of a user fee is the NICS. I have to pay a $10.00 fee everytime I buy a gun. Is a user fee, a revenue stream? you betcha; Is it a tax by another name? Hell yes.

    You see if they call NICS a tax, then they could not charge you time and time again for the same redundant useless service. Where I live, if you by a gun and walk away from the counter, and then decide you want another gun with in minutes of the original purchase, you will have to run another NICS and pay another $10.

    Boomer

    "Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as it is by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed."

    NRA Life Member
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is not all that much different here in California. The current fees that I must charge for Dealer Record of Sales (DROS) here is $14 for the DOJ to performn the mandated backgournd check on unlicesned firearms purchasers. Several years ago the legislature passed a law that the DROS fee could not excede the actual cost of the "service" and it has sat at this $14 level for saome time. There are however additional "fees" which are tacked onto the DROS which have no bearing on the cost of the background check, these are for other purposes and are a source of contention.

    The vehicle license fee in California is a form of personal property tax and it clearly states this when you renew your vehicle registration. The cost of the registration itself looks like this for my 2002 BMW 540i: REGISTRATION: $30, VEHICLE LICENSE FEE (VLF) $963, COUNTY?DISTRICT FEES $9 (this pays for telephone call boxes and emergency services like tow trucks on freeways), SMOG ABATEMENT FEE $6 (I have no idea what this does!). For a toal of $1008 (there was a $650 VLF offset this year so my actual cost was only $358). Since the VLF is a personal property tax it is deductable on your Federal Income Tax, the other fees are not.

    Mark T. Christian
  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Mark - since I do not live in California, what are the taxes and fees on say a $1,000 handgun for teh average citizen? is there a waiting period?

    Boomer

    "Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as it is by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed."NRA Life Member
  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you purchased a $1,000 handgun here in Orange County (where I am located) you would be subject to $20 in Department of Justice fees (the DROS and two other "safety fees"), a 7.75% sales tax (different counties have different rates- most are higher) for a total $1097.50. If this were a private party transaction then the dealer performing the transfer can charge a maximum (set by law) of $10 for his services. There is a 10 day waiting period in effect on all firearms purchases except those long guns which are Curio and Relics and sold to C&R FFL holders-- C&R long guns are out the door at point of purchase to C&R holders. If the C&R is a handgun then the buyer must also have a state issued Certificate of Eligibility-- a yearly background check if he wishes to avoid the waiting period...otherwise it is still 10 days waiting, C&R or not. Of course if you want the COE it is not free; there is a $77 user fee for the application and a $17 fee for the renewel each year! This is all much worse than you'll find in most states, but still not nearly as bad as what you have to go through in some others!

    Mark T. Christian
  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
    edited November -1
    Thanks mark - Sad, so sad! BTW, could you commet on the Special Weapons guns?

    Boomer

    "Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as it is by the obstacles which one has overcome while trying to succeed."NRA Life Member
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